Talk:Frank Patterson

No discography?

Certainly isn't enough to mention that Patterson recorded over thirty albums without providing a list.

71.173.2.51 (talk) 16:22, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Copyright Violation

A good portion of the biography seems to be lifted from the All-Music Guide, as referenced by this link: http://www.websterrecords.com/artists/patterson.html I'll check back in a while and either delete or rewrite as time permitsSeaphoto^Talk 05:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

I've deleted the section copied from allmusic, as well as some of the POV language. The Irish Times obituary is a good starting point for beefing up this article. Patterson deserves a proper entry in Wikipedia that acknowledges his huge contribution to music. Jim Bruce (talk) 16:08, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Deletion

- I found the section about 9/11 inappropriate. It was an entirely different topic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.68.68.149 (talk) 22:20, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'd like to delete the same section under External Links I just tried deleting because it's completely inappropriate. Would the prude patrol that reverted my edit (apparently just because I used profanity in explaining it on the talk page) care to explain why that section should not be deleted before I do it again? Do you guys have a curse bot going around looking for naughty Wikipedians, automatically reverting the edits of those who aren't polite or have dirty mouths? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.145.206.201 (talk) 03:29, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Screw it. I'm deleting again. You gave no good reason for a revert, and I gave plenty of reason for a redaction (though the reasons should be self-evident to anyone). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.145.206.201 (talk) 03:56, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Yep. Just keep reverting without explanation or cause. You've been highly successful in keeping irrelevant and inappropriate info in the article. Good job at preventing "vandalism"! You sure showed me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.145.206.201 (talk) 04:14, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey, maybe I should go to the Mohandas Gandhi article and write in several paragraphs about a tribute performance dedicated to Gandhi in NPOV, and write so much it takes up the entire fuckin article. Then when someone deletes the irrelevant BS you guys will swoop in and stop the "vandalism"? How bout that? Good idea?

Someone worked hard to write this, and it does add information about the person that increases his notability. I agree much of it needs to be linked to sources, but suspect this is possible, and would be preferable to wielding the butchers knife so enthusiastically. Riversider (talk) 22:24, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Patterson post-mortem

I think the article in the main should be confined to the individual's life and actions. There may be a worthy article yet to be written about Johnny Watts(TV producer), but it doesn't belong here. The article reads like a Laudatio Turiae, and does Frank Patterson an injustice. He had his rough edges too (nothing wrong with that!). The ongoing revert war is not encouraging other editors to contribute. Could I suggest a little restraint all round, and a little less saccharine (in the sense of 'too sweet to be wholesome')? RashersTierney (talk) 10:43, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Rather than deleting the material, transferring much of it to two new articles, and posting links might be preferable - RashersTierneys suggestion of an article on Johnny Watts (TV Producer) is valid, as might be an article on Angels Circle, I'm trimming some of the stuff on Angel's circle as it contains repetition which is poetic and well-written, but not encyclopedic.Riversider (talk) 17:43, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Let's Keep To The Policies We Have

The first five paragraphs of this article are a stub with one reference. The remaining 3,700 words are unsourced, off-topic, un-encyclopedic and definitely not NPOV. There is no room in an encyclopedia for writing that the subject's death was the beginning of a new and welcome chapter in his life. There is probably room somewhere in Wikipedia for an article on John Watts and there is almost certainly room for an article on Angel's Circle, but this is neither of those articles and the page on Frank Patterson is not the place to post them. In a previous comment, Riversider wrote, "someone worked hard to write this...," well I'm sorry, but there is no Wikipedia policy that says misguided effort must be rewarded by inclusion. There are plenty of policies to tell us what to include, and this gush violates every one of them. I am deleting all the unsourced, irrelevant, off-topic writing. Cottonshirt (talk) 23:47, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

This is what I was trying to do back in Jan of 09, but apparently opinions and constructive edits of unregistered Wikipedia users isn't welcomed by the Wikigeek Mafia. Oh well, nice to see someone got the job done and the person reverting to the bullshit finally removed his head from his ass. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.114.82.162 (talk) 03:20, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Feis Ceoil

The quoted source says that Patterson won four competitions at Feis Ceoil, but names only three of them. I contacted the Feis Ceoil Association to ask about the fourth and received a reply from Howard Freeman who said, "Frank Patterson won the German Government Cup, Oratorio Cup & Lieder Prize all in 1964. If there was a fourth competition win I can't seem to find it. It surprises me that he never won the Solo Tenor prize, but I can see from our records that there was no winner in either 64 or 65." Obviously I can't put this in the article because it is original research, but I'll leave it here for anyone who is interested in Frank Patterson. Cottonshirtτ 20:10, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Images required

This article could certainly benefit from the addition of photographs, if anyone is in a position to provide them. RashersTierney (talk) 17:39, 2 May 2009 (UTC)