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Fraserburgh holds the UK record for the highest gust of wind at a low-level (ie non-mountain) site: 123 knots on 13 Feb 1989. (Source: Met Office) 86.132.137.170 02:06, 23 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

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There is absolutely no place in this article for a huge section on drugs. It is unfounded that the town is worse than other towns of the same size for drugs, and the links provided link to speculation. Please stop vandalising this page. Nessymonster (talk) 08:13, 23 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

Removing properly sourced material without good reason is vandalism. It is perfectly valid that the drugs problems of the town should be mentioned even though some people would prefer that such things be ignored. To claim that "it is unfounded that the town is worse than other towns of the same size for drugs" is nothing more than a point of view - if you have sources to back up that statement, add it to the article rather than merely deleting information you don't like. By the way, if you want Fraserburgh to appear in a good light, can I suggest the way to do this is by improving the article by adding material. I will now replace the deleted, properly sourced material that you removed. 86.157.167.173 (talk) 11:20, 23 October 2008 (UTC)Reply
I second 86.157.167.173's comment. Since a book was mentioned that doesn't exist, the reference to the book can be deleted. However, removing a section that was sourced to verifiable sources is not the solution to the problem. Nor is engaging in edit wars. Antivenin (talk) 13:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)Reply
I disagree completely. There is no difference between Fraserburgh and other towns with regards to drugs. For the Fraserburgh article to have a huge section on being bad for drugs, then I would expect proper links with some figures which compare it to other towns/cities. The sources that you mentioned earlier are not proper sources, as the same thing could be pulled up about any town in the country.Nessymonster (talk) 15:57, 23 October 2008 (UTC)Reply
We obviously need some very good references, with official statistics. Until we have those, I don't actively support inclusion or withdrawal. However I will go and see what references I can find, and I think that's well worth doing, because – like it or not – the town has sadly got a bad reputation in the local area. (I spend a fair amount of time in Banffshire and I'm convinced of this.) Fuelled no doubt by local press reports which are notoriously negative and sensationalist, but nevertheless, there could be some seeds of truth and this should be checked out rather than discounted out of hand. – Kieran T (talk) 16:03, 23 October 2008 (UTC)Reply
Whether fair or not, there is plenty evidence that Fraserburgh has been called 'the heroin capital of Britain' - that is a verifiable fact whether people like that or not. I have never read of Peterhead, Banff, Turriff, Ellon or, further afield, Stonehaven, Montrose, Stranraer etc being described in that way. Also please get it in perspective - 'a huge section on drugs'...err, it is a little under three lines - hardly a huge section! 86.157.167.173 (talk) 16:10, 23 October 2008 (UTC)Reply
Well, Peterhead does get tarred with the same brush, but then so does Aberdeen. You're right about perspective: we all know there is much more to these towns, including the rich heritage in the fishing industry which could be discussed further. But we're not debating whether or not to put similar paragraphs in the Peterhead article, for example. Here's a more constructive thought: presumably there must be some drug education and rehabilitation programmes being run by the health service in the area. Is there anything particularly imaginative or innovative? Something positive would help to balance the discussion in the article. – Kieran T (talk) 16:24, 23 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

For those who deny that Fraserburgh is any worse, here are statistics Fraserburgh to the rest of the Grampian area (see page 48, last paragraph) - [1] 86.157.167.173 (talk) 18:16, 23 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

To agree with Kieran T (talk), here is something positive that could be added on the issue of drugs in Fraserburgh - [2]. 86.157.167.173 (talk) 18:22, 23 October 2008 (UTC)Reply
Have to say that I have lived in Fraserburgh for well over 20 years, and never met anyone who uses/sells drugs. It cannot be as bad as you all make out here. 62.6.163.131 (talk) 20:03, 23 October 2008 (UTC)Reply
Two points - Firstly this article is not about our personal experiences. It can only be based on verifiable sources. Secondly, though irrelevant to this article, my experience is that I have known people who have died from overdoses as well as people who have been jailed for dealing (though I didn't realise they were selling the stuff until they were caught.) On the positive side, I know people who work with the Solid Rock Cafe that is doing good work to help turn drug users lives around, so it is not all doom and gloom. 86.157.167.173 (talk) 20:54, 23 October 2008 (UTC)Reply
If you are interested - a link to the Solid Rock Cafe - [3] 86.157.167.173 (talk) 20:56, 23 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

--- I was under the impression that the 'drug problem' was just a rumer te media made to bash the broch. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.174.38.77 (talk) 23:56, 8 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

--- Further Information

I note that no mention made in the article of Fraserburgh in World War 2. When it was known locally (or so I was told) as 'Hellfire corner'. As it was close to Norway, and easily reached by German planes. Another thing missed is the use made of Fraserburgh by Marconni, the Radio pioneer. I also disagree with the part that says 'subtitles used so people could understand the Fishermen'. As I remember the programme subtitles were only used when the Fishermen were talking in the Engine room, of the boats. Or when they were talking and the voice was indistinct. Generally there were no sub titles used, nor any reason for them. Cetainly I had no trouble understanding the men, and I come from Southern England!Bettybutt (talk) 03:21, 4 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Naming Terminology "The Broch" is not the term for Fraserburgh in Scots but merely the local name, that local legend suggests that it comes from a local dslike of the founder of the town, Sir Alexander Fraserbugh. To suggest that it is actually called the Broch, would be like suggesting that Chicago's actual name in American is the "Windy City." Thus I'm changing the title from Scots to local name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.168.127.190 (talk) 18:48, 21 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Fraserburgh Past and Present by John Cranna (1914)

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Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I led a community project in 2011 to source, copy and transcribe a full version of this book, which was by then out of copyright. I've uploaded a copy to Wiki Commons as a useful source for anyone editing this article.

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