Talk:Fred Patten

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Wikipedia has articles on Furry, Anime, and Manga. As explained in the biography of the article, this man has had a long history with all of them and has had a hand in documenting them (and actually published in hardcopy, not just on the Internet). His "relevance" is his heavy connection with these other topics.

The items stated in this article are relevant to his role in these interests which have already been thoroughly documented in this website, and they are researched and factual.

If someone would want to take the time to explain how this article is not in keeping with the "voice" of Wikipedia I would be interested to read it. I notice others have already started to make coding changes to bring it in line.

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Fred Patten is an important figure as a historian of Science Fiction, Comics, Manga and Furries that it is hard to believe that Wikipedia would be considered comprehensive without this entry. He is a noted scholar and journalist who has written books and articles of merit.

John Alexander Hall, Esq.

No discussion or article about the early years of manga and anime in the American market would be complete without referencing the numerous articles Fred Patten has written on the subject. He has been asked to give lectures on animation by scholarly organizations in places as far flung as Australia, as well as hosting numerous panels on managa, animation and comics at various conventions, including the world-renown ComiCon International in San Diego. He is one of the most respected historians not only of manga in America, but of funny animal comics and the anthropomorphic (furry) genre.

Roz Gibson

If nobody minds, I'm going to take this article in hand (or paw, as it might be), and give it a good cleanup to deal with the concerns expressed. I definitely feel Fred's a large contributor to the F/SF, anime, manga and furry community, so it's worth the time to get something that looks good. Let me know if anyone else is working on it, though, so I don't clash with anybody... --Tony Fox 19:08, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, nobody said anything, so I gave this a big-time cleanup job. My aim was to make it read less like a personal bio and more like an article, and emphasize the notable points in Mr. Patten's offerings to various topics. I found some good links, and also Wikified a bunch of other links that tie in to other topics. I *did* remove a huge amount of his magazine and other credits, simply because what they were doing was overwhelming the article and making it read far too much like a resume. If anyone feels they're necessary, I've got the old version of the page saved locally and will be happy to paste those lists into the Talk page - though I think that might get me bitten, in the end. Let me know what people think; I'll leave the copyedit tag in for a few days. (I've removed the potential vanity tag already. I think I've dealt with that.)--Tony Fox 02:43, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Attention should be given to Fred's chronicling of West Coast fandom activities, such as his history of Westercon. And his support of LASFS, as well as his long-running contributions to APA-L, the LASFS monthly magazine.twfeline 05:22, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

LACon award

(I moved this here from the main page until the contributor can fill in more details. Also leaving a note on that person's talk page.) Tony Fox (arf!) 19:06, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

(details to be filled in) A plaque was given to Fred Patten at LAcon_IV, August 2006. JBadger169 18:06, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

from the Fred Patten News Page:

September 2, 2006 On Thursday, August 24, Fred was given the Life Achievement Award at LACon IV. Text as follows:

Fred Patten in celebration of a lifetime service to Fandom

with thanks from the committee & members 2006

L.A.CON IV . THE 64TH WORLD SCIENCE FICTION CONVENTION

Beauty. I'll add that to the page, then. Thanks! Tony Fox (arf!) 01:14, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

References

This article is a great start, but it needs references to back up the assertions made in the article. Not doubting their veracity, just need something to point to. GreenReaper (talk) 03:10, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Here's one of what I'm sure are many, many articles. GreenReaper (talk) 20:08, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

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Lack of mention

Given that Patten was "known for his work in the science fiction, fantasy, anime, manga, and furry fandom's, where he gained great distinction" (my emphasis), I am very surprised at the near lack of mention of him, his name, and his accomplishments in such authoritative books such as Clute's & Nicholls' "The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction" (any edition) and Clute's & Grant's "The Encyclopedia of Fantasy" (any edition), and on The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction CD-ROM, and at The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction website.

Can anyone explain this?

Just curious. 2600:8800:785:1300:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D (talk) 18:19, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Nothing is ever comprehensive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.201.11 (talk) 17:14, 16 November 2018 (UTC)