Talk:Free Nations of Post-Russia Forum

Edit request: Historical Context

Please include the template "see also" to "Separatism in Russia" (and maybe give the last one an appropriate naming) in order to provide historical context on the similar movements in the region in the past.

Funds

Who ist financing this organisation? 2003:CB:8F09:A100:6920:136F:2E6F:EC97 (talk) 19:25, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

This initiative is founded by various volunteers stanislawskachko (talk) 23:34, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

What the hell is this article?

This website is meant to be educational and largely non-bias and view topics from a neutral standing while describing popular opinions on such topics, yet this article uses language that is overtly bias, without sources frequently, and declares that this organisation is “effective” while proclaiming Russia an “imperialist state” and not explaining how. How has no one noticed this? Are standards really this low now? GawainKois (talk) 23:01, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Kindly ask to learn history stanislawskachko (talk) 23:35, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2022/03/02/long-history-russian-imperialism-shaping-putins-war/ stanislawskachko (talk) 01:02, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Article needs to be protected from astroturfers

Every few weeks members of this group turn the article into an advertisement page for the group. This is a fringe group with no presence in Russia itself. The article needs to stay NPOV. 65.93.59.71 (talk) 07:33, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

This article show unbiased point of view which is verified by several internation journalist agencies and think tanks

https://www.hudson.org/events/new-architecture-northern-eurasia-sixth-free-nations-post-russia-forum

https://www.aalep.eu/free-nations-post-russia-forum-fnprf-member-organizations

https://jamestown.org/program/responding-to-moscows-imperial-revanchism-a-post-russia-forum-is-born/

But as as I see - this page gets attacted from potentially pro-kremlin biased editors stanislawskachko (talk) 10:50, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Those are think tanks that hosted the group itself. Those are not neutral third party sources. You are taking very lengthy quotations directly from the group without using any sources to show a real world impact of these declarations. Several other people have in the past also turned the article into 80% direct quotations. The repeated appearance of this strange writing style is likely indicative of astroturfing. 65.93.59.71 (talk) 16:14, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Article needs to be protected from anti-kremlin agents

Information on this page should be based on reliable international information from multiple sources. Thesis should be inline with WP:NPOV. Regards

Missing information

Regretfully - currently there are major gaps in this article as it is not NPOV and shifted to pro-russian narratives (lot of critisim by russian governments and pro-russian speakers but lack of objective facts about forums itself)

Suggestions to improve based on public availble information 1 - provide a list of coordination council of Forum

2 - provide a list of major speakers including Members of Europarliament, Italian politics, French politics, British, American, Sweden, Lithuanian, Polish politologists, historians, military, politics.

3 - provide a list of speakers (opposition from Russia, leaders of enslaved regions and nations (Ichkeria, Tatarstan, Bashkirs, Ingria , former deputies of Duma, journalists etc)

3+4 is over 200 leaders.

4 - provide a places of forums including European parliament, Italian parliament, Japan parliament, thinktanks such as Jamestown society, Henry Jackson society, Hudson institute

5 - provide list and short summary of signed documents of all forums (memorandums, decree, etc) by representatives of nations and regions 45.12.24.165 (talk) 02:05, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

1.The Circassia organisation in the Free Nations of Post-Russia Forum is the THE COUNCIL OF UNITED CIRCASSIA

2. My next change would be changing the Bashkort Movement, Bashkir National Political Center link to the correct page :Bashkir liberation movement

3. Zalessian Rus' no longer operates as a sepratist movement instead it calls for regional autonomy and a "union" of states the political party is: National Democratic Alliance (Russia)

Alexey Shiropaev proposed to transform the Central Federal District into the Republic of Zalessian Rus and form a "Zalessian self-consciousness" in it. The founder of the movement, Alexey Shiropaev, later turned to far-right Russian nationalism.

4. Replace

Ichkerian government

with the Vainakh Democratic Party

5. i couldnt find any consistent information on the Far Eastern Federal District potential to remove?

6. change

Committee of Ingush Independence

link to Ingush Independence Committee

7.change Kaliningrad Public Movement, Respublika Movement to Baltic Republican Party

8. The Komi organisation is supposedly Doryam Asnymos? but i cant find much online

9. Couldnt Find anything on the Kuban movement potential to remove? Thingsomyipisntvisable2 (talk) 17:04, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 April 2024

currently there are major gaps in this article as it is not NPOV and shifted to pro-russian narratives (lot of critisim by russian governments and pro-russian speakers but lack of objective facts about forums itself)

Suggestions to improve based on public availble information 1 - provide a list of coordination council of Forum

2 - provide a list of major speakers including Members of Europarliament, Italian politics, French politics, British, American, Sweden, Lithuanian, Polish politologists, historians, military, politics.

3 - provide a list of speakers (opposition from Russia, leaders of enslaved regions and nations (Ichkeria, Tatarstan, Bashkirs, Ingria , former deputies of Duma, journalists etc)

3+4 is over 200 leaders.

4 - provide a places of forums including European parliament, Italian parliament, Japan parliament, thinktanks such as Jamestown society, Henry Jackson society, Hudson institute

5 - provide list and short summary of signed documents of all forums (memorandums, decree, etc) by representatives of nations and regions 45.12.24.165 (talk) 02:05, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

1.The Circassia organisation in the Free Nations of Post-Russia Forum is the THE COUNCIL OF UNITED CIRCASSIA

2. My next change would be changing the Bashkort Movement, Bashkir National Political Center link to the correct page :Bashkir liberation movement

3. Zalessian Rus' no longer operates as a sepratist movement instead it calls for regional autonomy and a "union" of states the political party is: National Democratic Alliance (Russia)

Alexey Shiropaev proposed to transform the Central Federal District into the Republic of Zalessian Rus and form a "Zalessian self-consciousness" in it. The founder of the movement, Alexey Shiropaev, later turned to far-right Russian nationalism.

4. Replace

Ichkerian government with the Vainakh Democratic Party

5. i couldnt find any consistent information on the Far Eastern Federal District potential to remove?

i will write more assuming changes actually are made Thingsomyipisntvisable2 (talk) 19:36, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Not done: When creating edit requests you are required to present what you want a reviewing editor to do specifically. That is to say, you should phrase your request to sound something like "Please change X to Y" or "Please remove/add Y" with X and Y being quoted prose. If adding content, you must also specify where specifically in the article you wish to insert it. —Sirdog (talk) 08:22, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Discussion of telegram channel and adding additional information to the wiki from it.

After being in the telegram channel of this organization. I believe it is critical to provide additional information on the context. E.G specifics for each movement, the various criticism and analysis of feasibility of success/sustainability for each proposed nation and how they will be integrated into the wider global community.

As so far, they (the forum) has very little substance on how each nation will be 'successful' or their actual feasibility to survive and actively avoiding the topic through use of 'look at our telegram', 'they will be successful', your 'brain-washed by Kremlin propaganda' or the infamous 'learn history' deflection. 203.10.91.70 (talk) 09:32, 8 August 2024 (UTC)