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This is the most comprehensive article to be found on Wikipedia relating to the CID at Oriel House, Dublin. The CID was an adjunct of the Irish Free State Army Intelligence Department and was conceived by noneother than Michael Collins. Therefore, one cannot detach the Intelligence Dept. from the CID, eventhough it ended up under the supervision of the Home Affairs Ministry. The article deserves its own location, as the Intelligence Dept. had an influence in the CID right up to its abolition. Everything written in this article is verifiable and completely objective. Visit the National Archives and apply for the catalogue that contains the remaining CID/Oriel House files. Go then to the National Library and get out the newspapers for the relevant dates that the assassinations of republicans occurred. The truth is there and cannot be altered by any attempted revisionism.Fallduff (talk) 11:12, 21 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

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7 August 1922 Joe Hudson (18) lived at 3 Carrolls Cottages, Glasthule and was in command of a small group of ten IRA volunteers in the area. They were proving to be very successful locally against the FSA. This group operated down to Bray and across to Dean's Grange, where another group was based. On 7 August 1922, a group of FSA officers left Portobello Barracks, acting on information that a meeting was in progress in Hudson's home. The FSA officers, in two cars, pulled up near Hudson's, but a Fianna member on sentry duty blew his whistle to alert those inside Hudson's house. The occupants of the house scattered through the back garden as shots were exchanged. Hudson was injured and he dropped his weapon. A FSA officer approached him as he lay on the ground and shot him at point-blank range. He died next day in Dun Laoghaire Hospital, but not before he gave a deathbed declaration that he had had his hands up when shot.[8] The leader of the FSA group was Commandant Niall McNeill, whose father was a minister in the Provisional Government. [8] Evidence from Inquest reported in Evening Herald, 8 August 1922

Joseph "Sonny" Hudson was actually shot on Thurs August 10th and died Saturday August 12th. The inquest did not begin in St.Michael's Hospital, Dún Laoghaire until Monday 14th August 1922. I have a copy of his death certificate which states DOD as 12/08/22 and the relevant cuttings from the Irish Times 12/08/22,14/08/22,15/08/22 & 21/08/22. His grave at the Republican Plot in Dean's Grange Cemetery, Co. Dublin also has 12th August 1922. Incidentally, Carroll's Cottages were demolised and a new road that was opened in 1946 was named "Hudson Road" in his honour.

Derrindaffderg (talk) 11:00, 16 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

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