Talk:Freedom Socialist Party

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UW resource

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The UW collection linked here looks like a fascinating resource, but I don't offhand see any FSP posters in it. What is its relevance to this topic? - Jmabel | Talk 21:49, 2 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

I thought the same thing. I think, though, the connection is that the FSP was formed during the sixties and the political situation in Seattle at the time is relevant. The UW link was added to the Radical Women article, and there are some Radical Women flyers in it. Considering the closeness of the connection between Radical Women and FSP, I think maybe the UW link is reasonable. Doctormatt 23:03, 2 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Jmabel, Thanks for your kind note and suggestion. I linked to this particular collection because in addition to the item titled "Better Fewer But Better" by the FSP, there seemed to be several other connections: Radical Women (as noted by Doctormatt), Clara Fraser, and SWP's activities in Seattle. In general, I thought some of these materials might provide some background on FSP's formation. --UWDI ced 23:21, 3 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Could you please add to the description of the external link in the article, explaining what materials in the archive are relevant, and (if possible) directly linking these individual items? Because in two minutes with the link, I couldn't work out the relevance, and that's about all the time much anyone gives to casually following up a link. - Jmabel | Talk 21:49, 9 July 2006 (UTC)Reply
I think you're correct. I will remove the link -- this resource can be discovered via other pages with more direct connections. Thanks for your help!--UWDI ced 20:56, 11 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

"Front groups"

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Someone removed the claims that two organizations affiliated with the FSP are widely considered front groups. I think the statement is accurate, but probably should not be there without citation. I'm not reverting at this time, but if someone has decently cited statements to the effect that UFAF and Radical Women have been considered front groups, I believe that would belong in the article. - Jmabel | Talk 03:13, 5 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Fact tag

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I see that the following has a "fact" tag:

The United Front Against Fascism (UFAF)—founded by the FSP, but also including a broad coalition of the Left, the queer community, labor unionists, feminists, people of color, Jews, and civil libertarians—took the lead in mobilizing against neo-Nazis in the Pacific Northwest.

As a Seattleite, and not by any means an FSPer, I'd say it's on the mark, but may prove hard to document, especially if (reasonably enough) we don't consider the party's own paper a reliable source on the matter. The following three links from the University of Washington Daily may be somewhat helpful—[1] [2] [3]—but, really, if someone wants to get this solidly documented they are probably going to have to go back to stories before the Web era, so this won't likely be online anywhere. UFAF began in 1988 to protest/disrupt a neo-Nazi gathering Whidbey Island, commemorating the 1984 death of white supremacist Robert Matthews. More mainstream groups like the ADL were planning to just ignore them. The FSP decided that a bunch of neo-Nazis from around the U.S. converging virtually within a stone's throw of Seattle (and many of them passing through on the way there—I'll certainly never forget the four cleancut Aryan Youth types in armbands who wandered into my favorite U. District coffeehouse on their way to the gathering) should not be allowed to have their memorial in peace. I'd imagine that someone with access to Seattle papers from '88 could find a pretty decent story on this. And if someone has access to back issues of the Whidbey News Times or South Whidbey Record (I think they both go back that far) there might well be some good local reporting on this.

Alternatively, someone might want to contact the FSP and ask if they have outside sources we could cite on this. I imagine that they keep something like a clippings file. They seem to do a pretty deliberate job of maintaining archives on their own party history, I've seen the occasional rather good retrospective article in their party paper. - Jmabel | Talk 06:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Looks more or less decently cited now. - Jmabel | Talk 04:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Freeway Hall

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I've added a picture of the former Freeway Hall, which was FSP headquarters in the 1970s and early 1980s. I'll try to get a picture sometime of New Freeway Hall (in Columbia City, Seattle, Washington). Does anyone know the exact dates when Freeway Hall was the HQ? - Jmabel | Talk 08:49, 13 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

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BetacommandBot (talk) 22:23, 2 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Taken care of. -David Schaich Talk/Cont 22:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Merge Freedom Socialist Party of Oregon here?

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Per the Project Oregon cleanup page, there has been a recommendation to merge the Freedom Socialist Party (Oregon) into this article. However, this article has a "Not to be confused with" tag for Freedom Socialist Party (Oregon). Should they be merged or not? Sylvia A (talk) 23:51, 11 January 2009 (UTC)Reply


The "Not to be confused with" tag is wrong. The Oregon FSP is simply a branch of the FSP. They are the same party. You can look at the party's website: http://www.socialism.com/wherfind.html to see the Portland, Oregon branch listed. HGat82ndSt (talk) 18:08, 18 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Political stances

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Why is its fiscal policy and social policy considered just "left wing"? It is a communist political party after all! It is a contradiction to have it categorized in far-left poliitcs as it should be, but to have its social policy and fiscal policy as merely left-wing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.205.160.145 (talk) 12:54, 13 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

Far left and left-wing are not contradictory, I don't see any problem here. Ego White Tray (talk) 14:25, 13 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

Controversy section

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are there any sources that state that these views are controversial?

otherwise the entire section should be removed due to WP:NOR Avono♂ (talk) 14:08, 2 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

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