Talk:French battleship Richelieu/GA1

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Reviewer: CPA-5 (talk · contribs) 21:06, 17 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Hey, mate long time no see ;) I will review this article as soon as possible. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 21:06, 17 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Much appreciated - I didn't expect you to review this one for now and I forgot to check for the .0s before I nominated it, so I had to rush and fix them before you had a chance to catch me! Parsecboy (talk) 00:49, 18 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Ha, funny. You got those first before me.

Lead

As war with Germany became Link Germany as in Nazi Germany.
- Done
the Japanese in the Indian Ocean Link Indian Ocean here.
- Done
Recalled to France in December 1945 Link France as in the "Provisional Government of the French Republic".
- Hmm, that seems a little WP:EGGy to me - in the context, we're just talking about the place, so the link to the specific government doesn't seem appropriate there
Richelieu was part of the force that liberated Singapore following Link Singapore here as in the "British Military Administration (Malaya)".
- I think this is the same situation as above - a reader clicking the link is going to expect to find the article on the city, not the specific government

Maybe, but, at ARC or FAC reviews you always to avoid linking current nations' links. So I assumed at that moment that we'd to link Singapore and France because they do not have the same nations as today. Anyway, I do not mind if France is unlinked but Singapore should be unlinked too because its link goes to the current nation's article. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 15:04, 19 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

True, but I think Singapore is a slightly different case because it's a city-state - to link the city you have to link the current nation too. There isn't a good alternative, unlike Königsberg/Kaliningrad, for example. Parsecboy (talk) 16:22, 19 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Good point. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 23:21, 19 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

These included a number of bombardment Maybe replace "a number of" with "several".
- Done
in Italy over the course of 1968–1969 Maybe replace "over the course of 1968–" to "from 1968 through"?
- Works for me

More to come. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 05:46, 19 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Take your time, it's a lengthy article. Parsecboy (talk) 12:14, 19 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

I'll continue after I finished Sturm's French battleship Iéna nomination, but, it'd be probably finished today. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 16:32, 19 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Body

When in 1934 Italy announced that Link Italy here as pipe link with the Kingdom of Italy.
- Done
the French Navy immediately began preparations Link French Navy.
- Done
within the 35,000 long tons (36,000 t) limit imposed First Link both "tonnes" here and it is 35,500 t not 36,000. Also why is long tons here the primary unit? I thought France you used metric ones at the time?
- Yes, but for naval matters, long tons was specified as the international standard by the Washington and London treaties - the rest is fixed
with eight 380mm/45 Modèle (Mle) 1935 guns arranged We need a space between the unit and "380" here.
- Good catch
nine 152 mm (6 in) /55 Mle 1930 guns mounted No link to the gun?
- Added
Heavy anti-aircraft defense Link anti-aircraft defense and add (AA) behind aircraft.
- Done
anti-aircraft v. antiaircraft.
- Fixed
and Richelieu exceeded the 70,000 long tons (71,000 t) No primary metric units?
- Same as above
unilaterally signed with Germany in June 1935 Link Germany as in Nazi Germany again.
- Done
Repair work was conducted in Brest from Link Brest here.
- Done
No metric horsepower?
- I just follow the source, and Jordan & Dumas gave the figures in shaft horsepower
the war against Germany. In addition Maybe remove In addition with besides.
- Hmm, I don't like "besides" there. How about "also" instead?

More to come. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 09:32, 20 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

In the "British attack on 8 July 1940 and repairs" section, the section uses both short and long tons even the rest of the article doesn't use short ones.
- Fixed
island of Gorée, pointed south, so Remove the second comma.
- Done
the British sent a motor boat from merge "motor" and "boat" together.
- Done
After disengaging for the day, de Gaulle decided to abandon Remove the second space between "Gaulle" and "decided".
- Good catch
attack, codenamed Operation Menace Link Operation Menace.
- That's just a redirect to Battle of Dakar, and since I have the main link at the top of the section, I didn't think it needs to be repeated
the men and supplies, continued on south to Gabon Remove the Gabon's link and add before Gabon "present-day".
- See if what I've changed it to works for you
would be transferred to metropolitan France for repairs Link metropolitan France here and capitalise metropolitan.
- I don't think "metropolitan" is a proper noun when used in the phrase - see the article, which doesn't capitalize it in running text.
It's really odd to see an empty section called "Free-French career: 1943–1945".
- It's just a section header to group all of the lower headers in the same section - the same as the "World War II" header
the Germans in invade the rest Remove "in" here.
- Fixed
In addition, repairing and modernizing a ship Remove "In addition" and replace it with besides.
- "Besides" doesn't really work there - what's your objection to "in addition? :P
The ships arrived on 11 February and on the 18th Remove the second "on" here.
- No, that's needed there
the shell and propellant lifts being rebuilt Is this the verb lifts or the plural of the noun?
- Plural of the noun
where ordereda contract to Remove the extra space between "where" and "ordereda" here.
- I'm not seeing this one
to produce 930 shells was from You mean were?
- The contract was ordered, not the shells
After more than two and a half years without I'm not sure or we should use "two and a half years"? Is this allowed? I mean MOS says we shouldn't use numbers with more than two words above nine. But are comma numbers also included?
- Yeah, I wouldn't say "2.5 years" or "2 1/2 years"
Richelieu's tower fore mast was heavily Merge "fore mast" here.
- Done
the hull was in need of maintenance Replace "was in need of" with needed.
- Done
The ship stopped in the Azores Add Portugal here.
- Done
a single freighter of 3,000 t (3,000 long tons) Remove long tons here there is already one previously.
- good catch
On entering the Indian Ocean Link Indian Ocean here.
- Done
The four ships arrived in Trincomalee, Ceylon on 10 April Pipe Ceylon's link as in British Ceylon.
- Done
Supreme Allied Commander of the South-East Asia Theater American "Theater" we should use theatre because it's part of the name.
- Good point
while the Dutch cruiser HNMS Tromp led a the HNMS Tromp's link is an SIA.
- Fixed
her boilers were in need of a re-tubing Remove "were in need of" with "required".
- Done
in Casablana, Mers-el-Kébir, and Dakar Typo of Casablanca.
- Fixed
to September to conduct a survey of the work Remove "conduct" "a" and "of".
- Done
of Vice Amiral (Vice Admiral) Jaujard Is there a link to the Jaujard's article. Also what/who wat it?
- First name is apparently Robert, but no article on him - a redlink will have to do for now
Post-war v. postwar.
- Fixed
supplemented with fifty 20 mm (0.79 in) Oerlikon guns they're cannon not guns.
- Fixed
when she was laid up in Brest Why is laid up linked to Wiktionary?
- That's a fairly common link to use

I'll do the image, infobox and the sources tomorrow. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 19:36, 20 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Infobox

No link for the "100 mm (3.9-inch) anti-aircraft guns"?
- No, the guy who's been writing all of those articles skipped all of the French 100 mm guns for some reason
Link both normal and full load.
- Those are linked in the box above
Link of these "380 mm/45 guns", "152 mm/50 guns" and "100 mm anti-aircraft guns" guns?
- They're already linked in the box above
Replace "20 mm (0.79 in) Oerlikon AA guns" with with "20 mm (0.79 in) Oerlikon AA cannons"
- Done

Sources

Maybe a code like ISBN, ISSN or OCLC in Dumas' book?
- Added an OCLC
Google books say to me that the publisher of Rohwer's book is "Naval Institute Press" and not "Chatham Publishing".
- There are different printings - there's one from Chatham
Maybe standardise the hyphens in ISBNs.
- Done

Images

Is it normal to not see a chunk of the The_Royal_Navy_during_the_Second_World_War_A23483.jpg image?
- Yeah, there was something wrong with the scan - see the source page
The is no summary table in the File:Richelieu-1.jpg and there should be a link there too. Same with File:Richelieu-3.jpg
- Neither are necessary for the image to be usable - Rama uploaded a bunch of scans from the ONI books, and the only reason the one has a link was because I uploaded a higher-res version the NHHC has digitized - for whatever reason they haven't done the others.
What's the date of File:Richelieu Ney York.jpg and where is its link too?
- Added the year, and the link is already there

That's anything from me. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 10:43, 21 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Thanks again! Parsecboy (talk) 13:11, 22 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

What an excelente article you got. I'll pass this one. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 20:38, 22 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

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