Talk:Friction modifier

Edit Request 1-FEB-2018

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This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. The submitted changes are meant to promote a product or service.

Hello, my name is Kim, and I work at MSL, a PR agency representing paints and performance coatings company Akzo Nobel. I am working closely with Akzo Nobel scientists and experts in the field to clarify the benefits and uses of friction modifiers within the chemistry and technology communities, and I would like to propose additions to this page:

• Within the first paragraph, add the following line to the end of the paragraph:

“In some cases, they are needed to increase friction such as in transmission systems ^[1].”

• After the third paragraph, insert a new paragraph:

“Fatty amines have been used for a number of years as OFMs^[2]. These are traditionally derived from Tallow or Oleic_acid sources which are converted to nitriles and then reduced to primary, secondary or tertiary amines. The driving interest in OFM’s such as fatty amines is that they help lower the SAPS (sulphated ash & phosphorous) emissions ^[3] from car exhaust increasing the life ^[4] of after treatment emission systems and reducing engine deposit formation.”

• Within the existing fourth paragraph beginning with “organo-molybdenum compounds…” add the following sentence to the end of that paragraph:

Synergistic effects are seen between organo-molybdenum and fatty amine OFM ^[5].

Kim at MSL (talk) 20:15, 2 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

References

^ Green, L. “When and How to Use Friction Modifiers”, “Machinery Lubrication”, Tulsa, OK, December 2015.
^ Spikes, H. “Friction Modifier Additives”, “Tribology Letters”, United States, October 2015.
^ Lundgren, S., Eriksson, K., and Rossenaar, B. "Boosting the Friction Performance of Amine Friction Modifiers with MoDTC,", “SAE International Journal of Fuels and Lubricants”, United States, 14 April 2015.
^ “The Low Down on Low SAPS and Diesel Post Treatment”, “Total”, Australia.
^ Lundgren, S., Eriksson, K., and Rossenaar, B. "Boosting the Friction Performance of Amine Friction Modifiers with MoDTC", “SAE International Journal of Fuels and Lubricants”, United States, 14 April 2015.

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In some cases, they are needed to increase friction such as in transmission systems.
N Declined The reference does not originate from the website submitted. Its provenance is unknown and not immediately verifiable.
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Fatty amines have been used for a number of years as OFMs.
N Declined This information is already present in the article.
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These are traditionally derived from Tallow or Oleic_acid sources which are converted to nitriles and then reduced to primary, secondary or tertiary amines.
N Declined The essentials communicated by this sentence are already present in one form or another in the article.
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The driving interest in OFM’s such as fatty amines is that they help lower the SAPS (sulphated ash & phosphorous) emissions [3] from car exhaust increasing the life [4] of after treatment emission systems and reducing engine deposit formation.
N Declined The essentials from this statement, that friction modifiers reduce wear and tear, are already communicated by the article.
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Synergistic effects are seen between organo-molybdenum and fatty amine OFM
N Declined This article's topic is friction modifiers. The rejected sentence above describes chemicals added to friction modifiers and thus, is off-topic. Furthermore, the rejected statement above describes products manufactured by AzkoNobel, the client of the COI editor's PR company, as indicated by the information supplied in their suggested-use references (e.g., "This paper describes how the friction performance of amine containing lubricating oils can be improved with the addition of a small amount of molybdenum dithiocarbamate (MoDTC). Three fatty amines, tallow amine (Armeen® T), tallow propanediamine (Duomeen® T) and tallow dipropylenetriamine (Triameen® T), have been tested with Zinc Dialkyldithiophosphate (ZDDP) and with and without MoDTC in the Minitraction machine (MTM).") The products Triameen, Duomeen and Armeen are all products manufactured by AzkoNobel^[1]^[2] and these products will not be promoted in the Wikipedia article.