Talk:Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears/Archive 1
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Expanding this article
The speech itself is taken as a famous example of rhetoric, populism and is very ingrained within other areas of culture. I would be happy to do some work expanding this if a few others wanted to help out too ? anyone? Lostsocks 15:27, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Original speech
I think there should be something in here about Antony's actual historical speech, including how close it was to Shakespeare's text, how it was different, how Shakespeare came up with his specifics, his sources for what the speech was, our sources for what the speech was, etc. I mean, obviously this speech is of great historical significance, if it can indeed be assumed to have turned the tide of the Roman people from the conspirators to against the conspirators. The article on Mark Antony itself links this page as his speech—not as Shakespeare's rendition or imagining of it, but his actual speech. So there should be some historical information or context. VolatileChemical (talk) 21:28, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Humorous cultural impact
Would this article benefit from a listing of the monologue's usage in comedy? For example, an "Our Gang" (Little Racals) short wherein Spanky was to recite the monologue while being heckled by the rest of the rascals. I also remember it being used in a comedy ovie wherein the crowd threw their ears at the speaker after the first line - I want to say that was a Mel Brooks movie.
I don't have specifics for the list, but I do remember these instances existing. I expected to find such a section when I came here.
redundancy?
About the bit in the introduction, where it explains that the phrase means "friends, romans, fellow citizens..." isnt this a bit redundant? it merely rephrases 'countrymen' as 'fellow citizens'. 203.124.2.18 (talk) 13:43, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- It also rephrases "Lend me your ears", but surely nobody's that... Or can we just put a link to metaphor? Hrcolyer (talk) 17:34, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
It's not as clear as that
The idea that Anthony wins the crowd over and leads to the conspirators' ends is too simplistic: the point of Anthony's and Brutus's speeches is surely to show how easily a crowd can be swayed- the arguments each put forward are sophisticated and convincing despite being so opposed and demand reflection, but the crowd can mindlessly go either way. The point of the play, if not all Shakespeare's plays, is that wisdom doesn't consist in endless argument and conceptualizing, and requires the metaphorical return of the king (the personal common sense, moral Self). Sean McHugh 02 (talk) 12:32, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Translation
Is the whole "translation" necessary in the beginning? It doesn't seem very encyclopedic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.66.56.172 (talk) 13:12, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia is WP:NOT Wikiquote. Therefore, I am gracefully obliged to delete the entire incriminating section. Kindest regards, -- 李博杰 | —Talk contribs email 10:29, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Why is this here?
How did someone's high school essay get pasted in here? 192.91.172.36 (talk) 02:34, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Delete?
All that this is is a verbatim copy of the speech, which does not belong on Wikipedia (see WP:NOT). Skiasaurus 02:11, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Why be so unhelpful? WP has boundless space and it is convenient here. Perfect here. It just helped me. Do not delete and force people to ferret around with google. life is short. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.66.226.95 (talk) 13:51, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
I am against deleting this article. I agree with the comments below that it could be expanded to link the Shakespeare work with any historical information that might be available. However, I must also agree that the current state of the article is somewhat poor; perhaps the "Setting" section could be reworked as a "Synopsis"? 108.222.223.224 (talk) 15:57, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Scene 2?
I is scene two Ὄk — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.115.163.117 (talk) 21:16, 23 February 2017 (UTC)