Talk:Frontier Airlines
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Merger corrections
editWikipedia should be precise. Frontier and Spirit are not merging. Frontier is acquiring Sprit. Spirit shareholders are proposed to get Frontier Airlines stock and $2.13 per share. A true merger is if there's a new company called Frontier Sprit Company but this is not happening. Frontier is buying Spirit.
Wikipedia should report the truth, not imprecise almost truths. Wikipedia has a tendency to unwitting be stooges of the corporate world, calling things "merger" or saying Continental was an airline when, in reality, Continental took over United. Continental management took over United. Continental's livery took over United. Just the United name was kept. Charliestalnaker (talk) 06:25, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- I mean if you want to get really technical Frontier Group Holdings, Inc. (the holding company of Frontier Airlines) will form a new subsidiary called Top Gun Acquisition Corp. which will merge with and into Spirit, with Spirit surviving the merger and continuing as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Frontier. So it could be considered both a merger (the legal term Frontier used in SEC filings) and an acquisition. All mergers and acquisitions are complex transactions, and really the "gritty details" are unimportant to the average reader. I would argue that this is a so-called "merger of equals" because people that hold Frontier stock in February 2022 will own 51.5% of the combined airline and Spirit equity holders will own approximately 48.5% of the combined airline. That's a merger... not like when Continental purchased the mostly bankrupt United. In fact, Frontier is the one that's actually not in great financial shape at the moment. Furthermore, on the website the companies set up, they call it a "combination", not an acquisition. Anyways, for those reasons, I think it's more proper to call this a merger. --RickyCourtney (talk) 04:16, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- Frontier is acquiring Spirit, plain and simple. It is accepting corporate propaganda to call it a merger. It's also less precise. Frontier is the surviving company and airline. As far as United, Wikipedia drinks the corporate Kool Aid by making it look like United is the surviving carrier if you read the United and Continental articles. We in Wikipedia should do better and write more precisely and accurately. Charliestalnaker (talk) 07:52, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- Nothing has happened yet. They (Spirit) are still in talks with both JetBlue and Frontier. The precise nature of the deal will not be known until an agreement is actually signed. Wikipedia is not the place for speculation, or academic discussions of what constitutes a merger vs an acquisition. Mirza Ahmed (talk) 11:48, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- Frontier is acquiring Spirit, plain and simple. It is accepting corporate propaganda to call it a merger. It's also less precise. Frontier is the surviving company and airline. As far as United, Wikipedia drinks the corporate Kool Aid by making it look like United is the surviving carrier if you read the United and Continental articles. We in Wikipedia should do better and write more precisely and accurately. Charliestalnaker (talk) 07:52, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Denver as Hub
editDenver isnt listed as the airlines main hub or a focus city in the infobox, which is concerning because it should be. I believe it would go down as their one and only hub, but I'm not doing it right now because I'm on mobile, and I dont have a source in front of me. Cherrell410 (talk) 08:16, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
CLT Hub
editCLT is a hub Coolcraftnet18 (talk) 01:07, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
A321neo seat capacity
editI flew on a couple of Frontier's A321neos recently. They definitely do not have 240 seats (40 rows times six seats). In Row 28, the F seat is replaced by a jump seat for the cabin crew. In Row 29, there was no A seat in order to keep the exit doors clear. Thus, there are at most 238 seats. I'm not sure where Planespotters is getting the "Y240" configuration. Anyone have any better sources? 16:26, 19 August 2024 (UTC) Mirza Ahmed (talk) 16:26, 19 August 2024 (UTC)