Talk:FrostWire

FrostWire Overhaul

Just Checked, and FrostWire is now in version 5, so that needs to be updated. Additionally, it has now ditched the Gnutella protocol, and only has BitTorrent support. I am busy now, but in a few hours I will re-write parts of this article, and other articles about Gnutella to reflect this change.76.103.80.117 (talk) 23:42, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I improved the introduction, and made changes throughout the article to indicate the changes. I will be researching Wiki articles related to the Gnutella protocol, and file sharing, and make additional changes to those articles if need be.67.180.139.8 (talk) 05:27, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

FrostWire claims to be

This article contains the phrase "FrostWire claims to be" on two occasions. I know why it's there, but it sounds a lot like "but it's not". Please consider changing it to "FrostWire is". After all, the code is open source, so you can check. Shinobu 02:10, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Features?

The new FrostWire (4.20.x forward) has one very distinctive feature over LimeWire. It's BitTorrent Technology is completely different than that of limewire's. FrostWire is now an Azureus (Vuze) client when it comes to BitTorrent File sharing, so FrostWire has now all the strengths of LimeWire's Gnutella Core and Azureus BitTorrent Core all in one client. To the editors of this article, I'd like to suggest a mention of this important evolution for FrostWire, released this past Feb 21st. Gubatron, Lead Developer of FrostWire —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gubatron (talk • contribs) 17:05, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm curious as to what extra features FrostWire offers over LimeWire. Neither the Wikipedia article nor the official website say. Can someone elaborate and hopefully include the information in the article? -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 20:44, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

The main 'extra' feature is the lack of a fee for most of LimeWire Pro's features. It has all the option capabilities, and the only thing better in LimeWire Pro is that it supports "Turbo Mode" which equates to 4 connetcted servers versus 3 connected servers for FrostWire. Search results seem equally good, and - at least when connected on a relatively slower line - download/upload speeds seem equal. 12.65.222.2 00:02, 14 August 2006 (UTC) Jitter41

My FrostWire connects to 4 peers, same as the LimeWire which you must pay for.

Right then, this needs a source

To quote the article:

"...however several US software security analysis firms (including Kroll Research and Development) have identified several active trojan scripts secreted within the source-code itself."

I think an allegation such as this requires a source. After all, we should be truthful, shouldn't we? 199.126.134.144 04:31, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree, unless a source is provided the allegation should be removed. Karsini 20:43, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

The source is there for everyone to see, there's no such a thing as a trojan in our source, that'd be completely suicidal for the project. Gubatron, lead developer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gubatron (talk • contribs) 17:08, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Shai's Blurb

hi it's shai sorry about changing this page but just to tell you lime wire is the exact same —The preceding unsigned comment was added by FreddoMan (talk • contribs) 08:32, August 22, 2007 (UTC).

No, it isnt. --- 77.31.77.26 (talk) 12:22, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

This should be merged with LimeWire?

FrostWire gave me an update. I accepted, and LimeWire turned out to be the upgrade. So, is FrostWire discontinued? Is have FrostWire and LimeWire merged? Why would FrostWire make me upgrade to LimeWire? 208.101.155.204 20:59, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

This is quite possibly a bug in FrostWire. Newer LimeWire code is simply merged into FrostWire. LimeWire has a few features which allow LimeWire LLC to update certain data remotely and offer updates. It's certainly possible that the maintainers of FrostWire did not really grasp or even check all modifications to LimeWire's code and just merged them in. Thus, LimeWire LLC might have as much control about FrostWire as they have about LimeWire. This should be verified before anything like this is added to the article though. --217.87.92.25 11:51, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Just to mention that this is still happening as of v4.17. The programme states that an updated version is available at www.frostwore.com/downloads, and it is there, but if you click on the shortcut "update now?" link, it redirects to the Limewire site. 78.144.70.162 (talk) 21:22, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

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so, which protocoll is frostwire using? 0.4? 0.6? gnutella2? --Echosmoke 21:14, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

seems like 0.6 ? can someone confirm and add it? --Echosmoke 21:18, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

If memory serves me right, it can, or at least has the ability to use all protocols. Would have to double-check to be definate though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Olorinjoyce (talk • contribs) 14:15, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

No adware or spyware?

When i went through installation process it wanted to install the ASK toolbar and search. "It is distributed without any bundled adware or spyware. [1]" is entirely untrue with regards to adware. the faq which is cited states "Q: Does FrostWire have spyware? A: Absolutely not! FrostWire does not come bundled software of any kind. None. Zero." I have changed it accordingly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.108.144.5 (talk) 16:34, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Is FrostWire *really* Free Software? Does it meet the Open Source Initiative Definition?

When you first install and start FrostWire, you must agree that you will "not use it for copyright infringement".

Freedom Zero of the Four Freedoms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Software#Definition):

" Freedom 0: The freedom to run the program for any purpose. "

copyright infringement is a purpose.

and the 6th part of the Open Source Definition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Definition):

" 6. No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor

The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research. "

whatever your opinion on the matter, copyright infringement clearly qualifies as 'a field of endeavor.'

yet, the first paragraph of this article states the following: "Released under the GNU General Public License, FrostWire is free software."

it takes more than claiming to be released under the GPL for a piece of software to be Free Software.

and to the wikipedia 'people of influence': does it count as original research just because i haven't published an article or editorial on some trash website yet, or should i do that and then change the article? i can do so if needed, it isn't hard. nor is it hard to establish a source as 'credible'... the article currently cites lifehacker.com as a reliable source, for example.

--69.107.79.123 (talk) 03:39, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

beta release in 2005

Is that beta version notable? If so, it should be clarified why, if not, that line should be removed IMHO.

mfg, OldDeath (talk) 12:49, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Bing toolbar has replaced Ask Toolbar?

Installing 4.20.7 it looks like Frostwire now bundles the Bing toolbar as opposed to the Ask Toolbar which came with 4.20.6...so this should probably be updated in the article. I know I should do it but I've never made an update to Wikipedia so I'm afraid =P —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danull (talk • contribs) 03:25, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Flooding

I added this section. No reference but anyone using the application will confirm what I say. SmokeyTheCat 17:37, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

At least I can testify what you say to be true. The media industry (especially the one in the US) spends hundreds of millions each year in so called Anti-P2P companies, which among other things do work on disrupting P2P services by sending spam, taking down servers etc. - often not making any difference between legal and illegal downloads, as the media industry seems to have decided to rather fight the new technology/-ies in total instead of making the changes to their distribution models demanded by the market... However, I think on the long run they will fail. You can't just stop evolution or stay in the Middle Ages just because you like the situation as it is. There have been many examples in the past where the same thing has been tried out and it has always failed. :)

mfg, OldDeath - 16:32, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Wasn't this same happening in LimeWire also? Don't know about record company involvement, that can't be seen in the program search results. But the few years I used the LW just those things happened which are described in that section, so I'd say it is not a FW 'feature' (it is not specifically said to be, but there is neither any mention of that being in LW already). 85.217.41.249 (talk) 09:42, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

And one more thing: There is not any mention about this in the LimeWire article. 85.217.41.249 (talk) 09:44, 12 May 2011 (UTC)