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Frybread made from milk and wheat flour and fried in lard (traditionally) or vegetable shortening (more common since 1980) is also a fixture in poorer households in rural Kentucky and West Virginia. I've eaten it myself while visiting relatives there. The term "frybread" was not used for it, however; they just called it "bread." There are factual errors on this subject. Fried bread was unknown to the indigenous people's referred to herein. When the US government forced the Indans onto the reservations, the internees were dependent on handouts from Uncle Sam. Many were no longer allowed to hunt or tend gardens as they had before being relocated. Wheat flour was an unknown to the Indians. It was given to them along with lard and other white man food. They were hungry, and needed to make do, thus fried bread. Check historical references please. 184.17.171.102 (talk) 00:01, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

Not strictly correct. Many of the Eastern nations knew about wheat flour and its uses. Kentucky had a large number of diaspora from the Eastern nations bring what they learned, either when they moved north away from Oklahoma or when they fled west from US expansion. The history is a bit more complicated than could be addressed in this article.Wzrd1 (talk) 18:30, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Squaw bread

Why is the "squaw bread" parenthesis separate from the bannock one, as they both serve the same purpose? I would change it myself, if I wasn't concerned with the "squaw bread" term itself. Where are the referenced "some areas"? I've spent plenty of time in southern Utah, where fry bread is ubiquitous, and never once did I hear it called "squaw bread." And just because someone, somewhere, supposedly called or calls it by this term, does that justify the inclusion of pejoratives? Spike2021 (talk) 19:01, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

A google image search for "fry bread" and a google image search for "Squaw bread" turn up two very different types of breads. Why is there no wiki entry on Squaw bread? Here is an image of Squaw Bread http://foolishpoolishbakes.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/squaw-bread-loaves-2.jpg

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27 grams of fat?

Which has what to do with diabetes? Anyway, the USDA says it's a lie. 100 grams of frybread has 309 calories and 10 grams of fat, or 29% of its calories from fat, not the 34% implied. Of course, if you know anything about diabetes, you're more concerned with the refined carbohydrate content anyway.

Photo too dark

The photo of the Creek Native American preparing fry bread is very dark and hard to actually see anything. Questions:

• Does Wikipedia have some standard on the brightness, contrast, and similar to make sure photos are readily visible? (I recognize that this is affected by the brightness and contrast settings of the user's monitor, and I am a strong advocate of setting those to somewhere in the midrange instead of at the 100% level. Most other photos I see (on other Wikipedia pages) are easily visible.)

• If Wikipedia does have a standard, how is it expressed (I don't know how one would express such a standard)--maybe some average over all the pixels of a "goodness figure" for brightness and contrast?)

• Can somebody Gimp that picture and make it more easily visible--or should it just be deleted as I'm not sure it contributes a whole lot to the article. (Maybe if I could see the content, I'd feel differently. ;-)

Rhkramer (talk) 12:10, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

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Frybread versus Fried Dough

Hi, I recently looked up fried dough to see what it was, and the Fried dough Wiki article says that it is also known as "fry bread" while this article says that frybread is also spelled fry bread. So, based on the fried dough Wiki article I thought I understood what fried dough was but was confused that the article said it came from Canada. Searching for fry bread revealed this page, which seems more in line with my memories of "fry bread" than the fried dough page. The only similarities between the pages (other than the name) are the references to Hungarian lángos, and the description of how the food is made.

So my question is: should fried dough and frybread be considered the same thing, with maybe a note on the combined page about the Native American version and the Canadian version? If they should be on separate pages, I really think there needs to be a "not to be confused with" at the top of both pages. 73.234.22.34 (talk) 02:33, 3 March 2018 (UTC)