Talk:Fuel taxes in the United States

2008 discussion

I'm shocked that this article is so light on data. Why don't we have the fuel tax data for all 50 states [as well as DC and territories if that's available]? Stomv (talk) 16:55, 4 September 2008 (UTC)stomv

It's all right here if you have some time, put it in - Be Bold. Ariel. (talk) 18:32, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

I have to agree it's short on data. There should be a chart showing all the increases in the federal tax, with dates, the law each was included in, and the president who signed the law. Dismalscholar (talk) 02:23, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Are these taxes or fees?

Taxes should be based on the price, not the volume (gallon) sold. Should this be explained in the article? Or at least discussed here? Had the tax been a tax in that, the usual, sense, so much more revenue would have flowed to "the state", and maybe our infrastructure wouldn't be in the poor (D+) shape that it's in.

Okay this does not make sense

In the state of Michigan there has been a lot of talk about the gas tax and that jazz. When I look at this article it drove me crazy but then I went deeper. Guess what this article sucks for data. Whoever put this together needs to be shot j/k. The API which the article uses as a source has a detailed look at the gas tax. Now if I had time I would spend that time and update this article to show the true taxes. Mihsfbstadium (talk) 19:37, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

I agree. The numbers in the table don't jive with the graphic. There needs to be an additional column for local city & county taxes. And the arithmetic Jeep42 (talk) 01:40, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

Intro sentence

"The United States federal excise tax on gasoline, as of February 2011, is 18.4¢/gal and 24.4¢/gal for diesel fuel. In January 2011, motor gasoline taxes averaged 48.1¢/gal and diesel fuel taxes averaged 53.1¢/gal,[1] which accounted for 14% of the price of gasoline and 15% of the price of diesel.["

Is there a difference between "federal excise tax on gasoline [and] diesel fuel," and "motor gasoline taxes [and] diesel fuel taxes"? Or, is the latter simply the former plus state fuel taxes?Cromulant (talk) 16:46, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

I will update it

Hey,

I just checked the taxes and landed on API with their list (http://www.api.org/~/media/files/statistics/state-motor-fuel-excise-tax-update-apr-2015.pdf), and I checked the data. Data there is double-digit (48,29 US-Cent for example), but except this I noticed that taxes in some states increased and in some states they went down in the period from 1 January 2015 until 1 April 2015. I will upgrade it now and hope it is okay since it will be some work... greetings Kilon22 (talk) 14:12, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

DIFFICULT TOPIC but good to try to understand (Va. comments)

This is a difficult topic and almost no reference is fully accurate. Pump taxes are a combination of State + Local + Federal taxes, so just knowing state taxes does not necessarily give the total answer. Also many years ago Congress made it a law to forbid gasoline stations from showing taxes on the bill. That's partially why this data is so hard to grasp. More recently California has added a carbon tax to gasoline, but the politicians in their infinite wisdom decided to charge the oil companies directly for this fee (so that the amount of the carbon tax can not even be estimated by the consumer).

Specifically in Virginia we have switched to % wholesale with a floor, which I believe works out to about 16.2 cents/gal right now. Every 6 months a new number is published, based on wholesale prices. Then in North Va we tack on 2% local tax. So with reference to the Wiki article, the tabular tax number cited for Virginia seems incorrect (looks to me like it reflects the old tax rate 17.5 + 2% local tax for the northern part of the state). On the other hand, the map graphic looks semi-accurate for Virginia (36 cents Fed + state - I get 34.6 cents), but again keep in mind this misses the 2% local tax in some parts of the state. EDIT: OK I see now the API data should be very accurate as the state average for Va (40.8 cents) but the map says 36 cents. Better off using the API's map. Data is udpated quarterly by API.

Given our political officials tendency to try to hide the total gasoline taxes, it would be great to have an accurate US map of gasoline taxes. But any such map would have to include regional/local differences within the states, if consumers are to fully understand their gasoline taxes. Better yet Congress could allow taxes to be shown on the gasoline bill, then we'd know what it is (excepting for the California carbon tax approach).TBILLT (talk) 16:36, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Data

http://www.api.org/~/media/Files/Statistics/State-Motor-Fuel-Taxes-Report-Oct-2016.pdf

Shows a over 48 cent (not "volume weighted") tax and over 68 cents for Pennsylvania as highest, taxes here in the article are lower by 15 to 20 Cents?! API is not "nobody" I think so how can this be? This is effective 1st October (new 2017 Fiscal Year in the USA)

Greetings Kilon22 (talk) 20:48, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

I think API is right... In London the WTI closed today at 50.66$ per Barrel and Brent closed with 52.29$. For WTI (November delivery) this makes: 1.21$ per Gallon or 0.32$ per Liter. Gallon a bit more accurate (because of rounding up and down...), if the US volume taxes and almost all taxes are below 0.50$ than there is a extreme large gap and I know that refining in an oversupplied world like we have/had in the last years brings profit per Gallon to a very low level, same with gas stations... so for example California has 2.787$ average, Washington got 2.712$ and Nevada 2.505$. Even Texas (with the pipeline leak...) stays at 2.019$. According to this article the profit would be extreme high even at such low prices for the companies refining and selling it (most multi-national oil companies do producing, transporting, cracking in a refinery and selling to large wholesalers if no own infrastructure for selling exists or they sell it directly to the customer.... I mean 1.21$ a crude gallon costs and in Washington (state) you pay 2.71$ with a tax (according to this article) of 0.494$. This makes with ALL taxes ~1.70$ per gallon, over 1 US-$ is left... would make net profit for ExxonMobil & Co to at least a high 3-digit billion amount... or a tax is missing here which has to paid at pumping stations?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kilon22 (talk • contribs) 21:32, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

1st November 2017 - California

Hi, maybe someone wants to update the site? California became, for the first time ever I think, even more expensive than Hawaii in gasoline prices! If you imagine where Hawaii lies, and the size, the large military complex is the only reason why it is not everything even more expensive in Honolulu etc... US Debt as long known is extreme, federal, state and county... over 23 trillion together all 3 with almost 20.6 trillion "public federal debt". The gasoline prices were already very high before, because California can't import gasoline even from other US states as it has its own mix that has to be sold, a refinery going offline unplanned in the years after the big oil crash did show very fast strong effects... However, now a 0,12$ or 12 US-Cent per gallon gasoline tax increase was done on 1st November. I do not know about Diesel, maybe it is less, but usually the total tax on Diesel is in almost every state higher than for gasoline... however, already without Diesel it would make a few things a little bit more expensive and of course driving also a little bit with Los Angeles Area having a ~3.30$ per gallon price now...

it is middle in the night in Germany, and I would change it, but than the date and the other states and the average would not be correct anymore... so I only wanted to tell somebody... otherwise I try to do it with the report for autumn and in 2018 we will get the Quarter 4 report... a diesel increase makes almost every product in stores etc. a little bit more expensive, but since Diesel is very effective this will not be felt really, but at the gas station... smart people made a complete refill on the 31st October and maybe even filled some of this gas cans...

But the US wanted and need inflation as they said, and this is a thing... first New Jersey (large population too) with a very high increase, and now the by far largest state with almost 39 million people and 12 cents in one step is hard for the first 1 or 2 times driving to the gas station. Diesel tax increase only would make heavy to very heavy weight products a little bit more expensive, but companies and logistic companies could absorb the increase in the fight for market shares... a 20 ton diesel truck even driving 300 kilometer would maybe need 2 or 3 Dollar more if he is full...smaller trucks/pickups or even simple SUV, all these on gasoline would be a bit more as demand for gasoline is much stronger and small gasoline trucks use more per ton of cargo... however, its only something to be pi...ed about for the lowest/poorest 25% of the population owning a car. We will see if the incrase can up set the falling demand from new cars which are in many cases extreme much more effective than the 20 years old same model...

Greetings once more lol Kilon22 (talk) 01:43, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Broken Reference Link

There is a broken citation link for the table with the title "Taxes on gasoline and diesel for transportation by US state in US cents per gallon as of July 2019[8]"

This link won't open for me. [8]https://www.api.org/~/media/Files/Statistics/State-Motor-Fuel-Notes-Summary-July-19.pdf

I believe this is the corrected link, but I don't have time to update the table with the new information right now. https://www.api.org/~/media/Files/Statistics/StateMotorFuel-OnePagers-October-2019.pdf

71.205.7.98 (talk) 22:50, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

heating oil tax

What is the median heating oil tax by state? 66.82.144.143 (talk) 22:23, 22 October 2019 (UTC)