Talk:Furlough

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Work Release

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A Work Release is a document authorizing the contractor to begin work and issue invoices for payment for that work. It is issued after a bid for a particular scope of work has been awarded to a contractor.

Disambiguation?

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This page reads more like a disambiguation page than a real article (especially because every new paragraph starts with "A furlough is..."). It should either be replaced with a disambiguation page or fixed up to read like a real article. --V2Blast (talk) 19:58, 6 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

This should reference "Layoff" to clarify the distinction. There is no mention of the pay status of those furloughed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.218.201 (talk) 18:22, 12 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

I agree this page read like a disambiguation page. Since most material was about furlough as a temporary layoff I deleted {Globalize/US|date=August 2011} and added {this|a temporary layoff legal in the United States}. I moved unrelated material to furlough (disambiguation). Mapcho (talk) 17:26, 10 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Use in Education

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This addition lacks any specific information, apart from a year. School districts in what country? What states? What sources have been cited? This section should probably be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Calarch78 (talkcontribs) 20:07, 11 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

2013 U.S. Government Shutdown

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As a federal employee, I can tell you, for certain, that the government shutdown occurred today, October 1, 2013 at 12:00AM EDT. It did not occur on September 30 as previously reported - though the events of the previous day certainly led up to the shutdown at midnight. The executive order was given from Washington D.C. by President Obama at 12:01AM EDT to commence an "orderly shutdown of operations", hence the EDT time zone. If needed, I can cite several credible media sources for this change in date and addition of the actual time. The event occurred during my tour of duty, and I was at my desk and read the e-mail when it arrived from my agency's commissioner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diocassius (talkcontribs) 11:39, 1 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

US position needs more explanation for non-US readers

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This topic needs more explanation for non-US readers. Most readers in more developed countries with strong employee rights will not be able to believe that this is actually legal.

  • Surely this is a breach of contract? Ergo the employment contract is terminated and there is no requirement for the employee to give notice. Surely there is no expectation by the government that the employees will return to work once the furlough period ends? Surely all sane employees will have (had to) find another permanent job by then?
  • Is there a culture of "saving for government idoicy" amongst US civil servants so that they have some financial buffer - if so, that needs to be explained as there is generally not such a culture amongst employees in more developed countries. Do US employees have a very strong tradition of saving for a rainy day? Again, that needs explaining - there is generally very little need for that in more developed countries with strong employee rights.
  • If the employees do simply just move elsewhere, how do the government departments cope when the furlough ends and they need to find a whole new bunch of workers? Are people really dumb/desperate enough to go back to work for an employer who stopped paying them? Do the government agencies have recruitment problems, employee retention problems? How is this planned for and managed?

Andrew Oakley (talk) 16:27, 2 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

An initial section on Legal basis would be good. Miguel (talk) 09:54, 10 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
At least the article should make clear whether employees are paid or not during furloughs, or if some other arrangement is made (e.g. being paid but counting days against paid holidays). That may seem self-evident to readers from the US, but it isn't for us readers from other countries who come here to see what exactly a furlough is.--Pere prlpz (talk) 21:08, 21 January 2018 (UTC)Reply
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Payment

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Does the word imply anything about the compensation ? I'm asking because there are links to the Russian and the German Wikipedia which are contradictory. The link to the Russian WP points at something representing unpayed leave while the link to the German WP points at something representing forced payed leave at a time convenient for the company. The English version here seems to be all over the place so I must assume that the word here actually covers many different scenarios and seems to be (ab)used to avoid a clear statement when a forced unpayed leave is actually meant. Or maybe I'm wrong. JB. --92.193.220.77 (talk) 17:26, 12 October 2020 (UTC)Reply