Talk:Güngören, Midyat

Latest comment: 1 month ago by Suryani81 in topic Sources that we are Aramean

Assyrian stalkers

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Those Assyrians has to stop posting nonsense about our villages. I belong to the original Christian Basoki family. We settled this village before the other families and Kurds moved to Keferbe. We identify ourselves as Arameans and not as Assyrians. We originally come from the Levant area and have nothing to do with Assyrians from Mesopotamia. We will undo any change about our beautiful village. 2A02:A45F:ADD7:1:5234:35AF:3F1:A64A (talk) 23:29, 22 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi! I am neither Assyrian nor Aramean, but have seen the edit warring ongoing. I know that ethnic affiliations can be a touchy and divisive subject, and, while I don't want to disparage your first-hand testimony, it would be great to have verifiable sources talking about your village's Aramean population, as word of mouth isn't the standard for sourcing on Wikipedia. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 20:16, 6 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
We are the original family of this beautiful village and we have never chosen to be called Assyrian. We have the right to express ourself as Aramean and we have the right to do so. We are originally from Aramean lands around Antioch and our DNa does not match with Assyrianism nor with Mesopotamia. This village was empty before our Basoki family came around 800 years ago. We identify ourself as Aramean and our DNA confirms this. 2A02:A45F:ADD7:1:56B8:AEE3:67D4:B626 (talk) 20:50, 6 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

We are NOT Assyrians !!!

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Stop calling us Assyrians!!! Blocks don't work! We are Arameans. You are literally changing the history of my people. We fought in WW1 against the Kurds as proud Suriac/Aramean. They were killed because of their entity and religion. They didn't died for the Assyrian cause! We will never surrender tot other entities then ARAMEAN! Suryani81 (talk) 08:45, 10 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sources that we are Aramean

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The Arameans in Ancient Syria" by Herbert Niehr (Handbook of Oriental Studies, Part 106) This work provides a detailed exploration of Aramean history, including the Aramean presence in regions that are now part of Turkey, such as Tur Abdin.

"The Syriac Churches: Their History, Literature, and Theology" by Sebastian P. Brock This book touches upon the history of the Syriac-speaking Christian communities, often referred to as Arameans, in regions like Tur Abdin.

"Arameans, Aramaic, and the Aramean Church" by Habib Afram Afram's work focuses on the historical identity of the Aramean people, including the Christians of Tur Abdin, and their continued use of the Aramaic language.

"The Forgotten Arameans: A Study of the Aramean Heritage in Modern Times" by Numan F. Farsoun This book specifically addresses the modern-day descendants of the Arameans, including the Syriac Christians of Tur Abdin, tracing their lineage and cultural heritage back to ancient Aramean roots.

"The Hidden Pearl: The Aramaic Heritage of the Syriac Church" (3 Volumes) by Sebastian P. Brock, David G. K. Taylor, and Witold Witakowski This multi-volume set explores the Aramaic heritage of the Syriac Orthodox Church, with significant references to the Aramean identity of the Christian communities in Tur Abdin. Suryani81 (talk) 09:04, 10 September 2024 (UTC)Reply