Talk:GOELRO

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 213.60.17.63 in topic Contradiction in Article

Stating the Capacity of Electric Power Plants

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Quantity of Energy -

The unit "KWh" (more properly KwH, Kilowatt-Hour) is a measure of the quantity of energy, electric or otherwise.


Flow of Energy : Power -

The unit "Kw", (Kilowatt) is a measure of "energy rate" (flow of energy, energy per unit time), or more succinctly, power, in Watts or Kilowatts. The "Kilo" part is just a multiplier of 1,000, like the "kilo" in "kilometer".

Capacities of Electric Generating Plants -

The capacities of installations generating electricity (electric power plants) are rated in terms of the energy rate, that is, the flow of energy which they are capable of producing.

Such ratings are thus stated in units of "Watts" or "Kilowatts" (Kw), NOT "Kilowatt-Hours (KwH).

Sorry, translating from Russian, I missed "per year", i.e. KWh per year are meant, of course. Cmapm 01:20, 5 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

Socialism is the Soviet power plus electrification of the whole country

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But antisoviet mathematician knows "electrification of the whole country is Socialism minus the Soviet power". 93.84.35.114 (talk) 20:26, 6 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

GOELRO plan

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The most idiotic idea ever. GOELRO was accomplished before 1930, yet in 1990 the Soviet Union had problems to deliver electricity to its citizens. Another BIG LIE. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 15:03, 24 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Contradiction in Article

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Under "Implementation" there's this paragraph which seems to contradict itself. The paragraph says that the Soviets set a goal of "8.8 billion KWh," and that this goal was falsely claimed to have been met by 1931, but then goes on to say that 8.8 billion KWh was reached in 1931. Maybe a problem of sourcing? Worth looking into. Below is the full quote (underlining mine)

"It was intended to increase the total national power output per year to 8.8 billion kWh, as compared to 1.9 billion kWh in Imperial Russia in 1913. Soviet propaganda declared the plan was basically fulfilled by 1931. While only three out of ten hydroelectric stations were built by 1930: the Volkhov, the Svir, and the Dnieper Hydroelectric Stations; the goal of 8.8 billion kWh was reached in 1931, and national power output continued to increase significantly." 2603:7000:293D:489C:E9DF:12AE:8FB6:8D6C (talk) 16:59, 7 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Yes, I wrote that fix. Originally, it said:
"It was intended to increase the total national power output per year to 8.8 billion kWh, as compared to 1.9 billion kWh in Imperial Russia in 1913. Soviet propaganda claimed that the plan was basically fulfilled by 1931. In reality, only three out of ten hydroelectric stations were built by 1930: the Volkhov, the Svir, and the Dnieper Hydroelectric Stations.
The goal of 8.8 billion kWh was reached in 1931, and national power output continued to increase significantly. It reached 13.5 billion kWh by the end of the first five-year plan in 1932, 36 billion kWh by 1937, and 48 billion kWh by 1940.[citation needed]"
My intent was to rewrite this in a way that made sense, while it avoided the misleading claim that the goal was not reached. I cannot testify whether it was or not reached, I am simply following the sources, and they say it was. I was not using propaganda as a disparagement. 213.60.17.63 (talk) 17:02, 11 January 2023 (UTC)Reply