Talk:Gabriel Rothblatt
Latest comment: 3 years ago by Finnusertop in topic Request for comment on conflict of interest tag
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Request for comment on conflict of interest tag
editCan the COI tag that is at the top of the article be removed? Waters.Justin (talk) 04:23, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- I don't have a close connection with Gabriel Rothblatt. A COI check on me by an Wikipedia administrator in 2015 did not find a COI. The administrator just made me read an article on advocacy and spoke with me about neutrality and being respectful to other editors. The admin wrote, "I don't see any external relationships that constitute a conflict of interest there." See the COI check at this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Waters.Justin&diff=667968487&oldid=667283114 The COI tag was placed six years ago, so any biases in the article due to advocacy have had time to be challenged. Thank you. Waters.Justin (talk) 04:23, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- No. Absolutely not. Waters.Justin basically wrote this article, and his COI is obvious to anyone with access to a search engine. He's been trying to get the tag removed for 5 years now. The way to resolve this is for him to disclose his COI on his user page and request assistance to clean up the article at WP:COIN. R2 (bleep) 21:26, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- I thought the issue with me was advocacy and having an ideological bias more than a conflict of interest; however, I think a path to getting the tag off the article is fair. I want the tag removed because I think the tag is not fair to Gabriel Rothblatt because readers may assume that Gabe has the conflict of interest, which he does not. Putting a COI template on the Talk page that implicates me is more fair to Gabe. I will put this template on the talk page. Template:Connected contributor. Waters.Justin (talk) 23:19, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- I also requested assistance checking and cleaning up the article from WP:COIN. Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Gabriel_Rothblatt. Waters.Justin (talk) 23:37, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- I thought the issue with me was advocacy and having an ideological bias more than a conflict of interest; however, I think a path to getting the tag off the article is fair. I want the tag removed because I think the tag is not fair to Gabriel Rothblatt because readers may assume that Gabe has the conflict of interest, which he does not. Putting a COI template on the Talk page that implicates me is more fair to Gabe. I will put this template on the talk page. Template:Connected contributor. Waters.Justin (talk) 23:19, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose The COI is indeed obvious and it is apparent from the above and the linked discussions that the only point of contention is that the user requesting this has a different interpretation of what COI means. The entire point of COI tags is to consider COI as broadly as reasonable and it is entirely reasonable to consider that the primary author of this article has one. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:45, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- Comment. The point of this cleanup template is to tag articles that have actual content problems due to COI editing, not just articles that have been edited in a COI context. @Ahrtoodeetoo and Eggishorn: what content problems have Waters.Justin's edits introduced that remain in the article? – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 11:37, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Yes I just went over the article and removed some puffery and fixed some language. Whether the article was once written by the subject himself, is in my opinion, irrelevant, as the article stands now, it is not unduly self-serving, I think. ImTheIP (talk) 08:55, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Waters.Justin, Ahrtoodeetoo, Eggishorn, and ImTheIP: RfC has ended (without being closed one way or the other). What should be done here? – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 06:58, 12 February 2021 (UTC)