Talk:Gabrielle Roth/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 11:48, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I'm away from my desk just now so responses may be a bit slow, but I'll do my best! Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:41, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Happy to be challenged on any of my review comments. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:48, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Comments

Copyvio check

• I reviewed matches over 7% found using Earwig's Copyvio Detector. 40%+ matches with arielkarass.com and dans5rytmer.com appear to have used the Wikipedia article rather than vice versa. The Guardian match is an attributed quote. "five body rhythms: flowing, staccato, chaos, lyrical and stillness" is OK per WP:LIMITED IMO. No issues, although "a way to become conscious through dance" should probably be attributed in the text as a direct quote.
  • Noted, attributed.

Images

• The fair use rationale for the Roth image looks appropriate. Manhattan Ensemble Theatre pic is relevant, and has a CC licence; caption and positioning are fine. Optionally, alt text could be added to the images. (MOS:ALT)
  • Noted, alt text added.

Sources

• The Yoga Journal November/December 1990 reference could be more complete (Albert, Mimi "Teachings of an Urban Shaman", pp.70–73
  • Done.

• Margaret Wagner reference is lacking details (e.g author, date, and – from the archive copy I'm seeing – the full title)
  • Added.

• Awareness mag ref is missing the author.
  • Added.

• What makes biblicalbards.org a suitable source?
  • Removed.

• Jed Lipinski should appear as Lipinski, Jed
  • Fixed.

• For example, Nadine Fiume, Adam Barley, Gay Murphy, and Margaret Wagner Archived March 22, 2012, at the Wayback Machine teach the 5 Rhythms. is a bit untidy with the archive link. The ref and that info may be redundant, actually.
  • Tidied.

• Simon (2010) is missing the source name.
  • Added.

• Facebook is never an ideal source but in context here I think it's acceptable.
  • Noted.

• There are a handful of refs not in CS1 format - I don't like this but it's not a blocker to a GA.
  • Noted, I'll fix it soon.

• Spot check on At 26, she was told that she needed surgery and wouldn't dance again and resigned herself to the prognosis. - no issues.
  • Noted.

• Spot check on During this time she visited the concentration camps memorials in Germany that she had studied during college - no issues.
  • Noted.

• Spot check on She trained for three years with Oscar Ichazo - no issues. ("trained for three years with Oscar Ichazo" appears in the source but IMO WP:LIMITED applies)
  • Noted.

• Spot check on Roth directed theatre productions of Savage Love, by Sam Shepard and Joseph Chaikin, at The Culture Project (Mercer Street, New York City - source has the production's title as "Savage/Love"
  • Fixed.

• Spot chek on "an old woman with frizzy dyed red hair, a funny accent, and a long thin stick" who would beat her whenever she made a mistake, initiating in Roth a severe inferiority complex - no issues. ("severe inferiority complex" appears in the source, but IMO, again, is OK per WP:LIMITED)
  • Noted.

Text sections

Early life

• Typically the birth details would be included and cited here rather than in the lead.

• entered a depression - I don't have access to the La Cerra source, but this seems an unusual phrasing.
  • Reworded.

• Optionally, you could vary the openings of some of the sentences in the secong paragraph (I'm looking at She entered/She became/She found)
  • Done.

Career

• (Stockbridge, Massachusetts) - maybe "in Stockbridge, Massachusetts" ? (Similarly for (Rhinebeck, New York) and (Mercer Street, New York City)
  • Done.

• and has taught at the - maybe "and taught at the"?
  • Fixed.

• Roth wrote three books: not supported by the following citation, but there is a list of three later in the articel so that's OK.
  • Noted.

• Gabrielle Roth and the Mirrors - italics aren't used for band names. (AFAIK.)
  • Fixed.

• Roth performed and recorded as Gabrielle Roth and the Mirrors, - supported by the source, but elsewhere it looks like other musicians were involved too, rather than these being all Roth's own work. (And the subheading is "With the Mirrors")
  • She formed and led the Mirrors. I've weaked the opening text. Please feel free to copy edit here.

• The 5Rhythms have been the subject of academic study - optionally, it might be interesting to add a bit more about these.
  • I think I'll attempt this after the GA, if that's OK.

Personal life/Works

• The link to Sweat Your Prayers: Movement as Spiritual Practice gives me a message "Book available to patrons with print disabilities". There is another copy on Internet Archive that doesn't have that restriction. Optionally, you could change the link.
  • Changed link.

Infobox and lead

• Spouse Robert Ansell isn't mentioned in the body text and doesn't have a citation.
  • Added and cited.

• Lead is quite short, but acceptable given the length of the article. Optionally you could add something from the second para of Early life, or a bit more about what Roth was looking to achieve through her work.
  • Noted.

General

• As you'll know from past reviews, I include some comments where everything is fine, for the record.
  • Noted.
• I made the changes suggested by a couple of scripts.Feel free to revert anything that is objectionable.
  • All fine, thanks for that!

I'm satisfied that the article meets the GA criteria so am passing it. Nice work, thanks. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 10:34, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

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