Talk:Gail Halvorsen

Author

He has also written two books about his experiences. 75.132.159.195 (talk) 02:05, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Merge proposal

I propose the merger and subsequent deletion of the article, Gail Halverson, into this article. - Canglesea (talk) 07:09, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay, so having heard no objections I will merge the Gail Halverson article into this article tonight. - Canglesea (talk) 01:37, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

How many tons?

This Halvorsen page states 23 tons of candy but the Berlin Blockade page documents only "more than 3 tons". This page: "By the end of the airlift, around 25 plane crews had dropped 23 tons of chocolate, chewing gum, and other candies ... " Blockade page: Soon the major candy companies joined in as well. In the end, over three tons of candy were dropped on Berlin,[38]" Ref 38 is http://www.spiritoffreedom.org/airlift.html, perhaps written by vets.

Can we find any backing for the 23 ton figure? I've written to the National Confectioners Association [of America] to ask them to check their Association history. But I don't have any books or other sources. Will obviously check in here again if I get anything.
Thanks, everyone. --jerry-VA
Jerry-va (talk) 23:46, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

If I could take in my 2cts: The Berlin-Blockade was from 24 June 1948 – 12 May 1949. So, it is really good to assume 23 or more tons of candies during the whole blockade. Gail Halvorsen startet a thing which exploded in this time of the Berlin-blockade. He made it good, and we accepted this in our language: Rosinenbomber, Wackelflügel! These terms are fixed in the German language. This action influenced heavily high politics due to the beginning cold war: Russians against the west allied France, Britain, U.S.A.!: It made Berlin to an allied base, a sensor to the sowjets. Germany was slain! Lot of plans twisted around, and no one knows how to handle Germany. Then the American Marshall-plan were upcoming, the western states accepted (even Britain) the western zones of Germany as Germany but the Russian eastern region must say "no" due to Moscow whose party tried to establish a very own "Moscow (Marshall) plan". This didn't work really because the Russians removed the eastern German hightec completely as reparation. Thus, the new DDR starts from the beginning null. This is different to the westerly part of Germany then, because the allied forces stopped the demontage in the late 40ties. Finally, this was an advantage like in Japan: The industries could recover, innovates itsself with new machines, new techniques, new styles. France had also this chance then, and exploded in techniques. Their economy was not so good, since France had its colonial problems which reduced econonmy extremely. Britain had similar problems. And Britain itsself had the extreme problem of very old structures, now very old methods, not better done by German machines... Their empire broke away, step by step, land by land...

What else? America used the German patents like other nations also. But the U.S. people are fast! They tried a lot then! They are very practical! They don't care about secondary damage! But be careful then! China is coming, Japan trys, and we in a global Europe are really very good in new techniques...

At last, but not least: What do I try to explain here? Gail Halvorsen has changed the world in his own way simply to bring out Süsskram. In German: "Kleine Ursache, grosse Wirkung! (a small leak will sink a great ship)" Thank you for listening... sailor 46.115.115.36 (talk) 20:31, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Legacy

I was reading the info on Gail Halverson and came across some erroneous info in the "legacy" section. It says his grandson is attending the US Air Force Academy medical school - I don't believe there is such a beast. The Air Force Academy does not have a medical branch to my knowledge--153.26.2.60 (talk) 04:02, 14 October 2010 (UTC).

The above user is correct. There is no such medical school- the only military medical school in the USA is the USUHS- Uniformed Services University of Health Sciences. I couldn't find anything about his grandson, so I just deleted the line. —Prime642 (talk) 22:25, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

I am not sure if this merits inclusion. But in 2010 or 2011, his story was part of the annual "Christmas With The Mormon Tabernacle Choir" event.

Tempelhof Air Base closing

The Article states that the distinguished officer attended a closing ceremony in 1993, but the corresponding article on the Templehof Airfied stats that the Airfield closed in 2008, a full 15 years later. unsure as to the correct date or if it is the same airport. It is unlikely that two airports would have the same name, Richard416282 (talk) 08:10, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

The main usage of the US military at Berlin Templehof seems to have ended in 1993. See Tempelhof Central Airport which is the wiki article about the US "Tempelhof Air Base". The wiki article Berlin Tempelhof Airport indicates that the German civilian use of the airport ended in 2008. Same airport with at least two usages and names.--TGC55 (talk) 10:49, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

In fact, Tempelhof Airfield was finally closed in 2008 due to a new airfield building in Berlin-Schoenefeld (BER). This project crashed in nearly any way but Tempelhof stayed closed. It is now wether serviced nor really cultured nor planned for further investions. It's mainly just open for discussions about any kind of future! If you have plans, ideas... I have a feeling that you are welcomed in Berlin (they don't really know what to do with it
:-))... Greetings, sailor 46.115.89.59 (talk) 08:11, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Middle name?

The article says a "Gail S. Halvorsen Elementary School" existed at Rhein-Main Air Base, named after the subject of the article, so he evidently has a middle name beginning with "S". Anyone? I also ran across a YouTube video wherein the MC announces Col. Halvorsen as "Hal" Halvorsen, so we can add this nickname to the article. — Quicksilver^{T @} 16:25, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Found it — Seymore — Quicksilver^{T @} 16:42, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Deleted neutrality tag

I am currently in the process of cleaning up the page. I have been adding reliable sources and doing extensive copyediting. However, I couldn't find anything in the article that was not neutral. After double-checking everything I deleted the neutrality tag. If anyone has any concerns/questions please contact me. Thanks! Alexislynn(BYU) (talk) 18:44, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

The entire article is propaganda and not neutral. 173.68.168.197 (talk) 07:53, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Hawkeye7 (talk · contribs) 23:00, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

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Pretty good and a worthy subject. A few fixes required.

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Comments

• Date formats - DMY used in the infobox and some footnotes, MDY in the article. Suggest standardising on DMY Y
• Citations needed for the first paragraphs of "Professional career" and "Legacy", and there is a "citation needed" tag in "Humanitarian work". Y
• Spelling errors:
  1. "resuable" -> "reuseable"
  2. "the at the Directorate of Space and Technology" -> "at the Directorate of Space and Technology" Y
  3. "food,but" -> "food, but" Y
  4. "The kids broke it into little pieces and shared it; The ones who did not get any sniffed the wrappers" -> " The kids broke it into little pieces and shared it; the ones who did not get any sniffed the wrappers" Y
  5. "Upon his return home, Halvorsen met with several individuals who were key in making Operation "Little Vittles" a success" err...
  6. "but"drew him two proposals" space after "but" Y
  7. "nations.In" -> "nations. In" Y
  8. "Colonel Halvorsen" -> "Halvorsen" Y
• Links
• Link Salt Lake City, Utah, Rigby, Idaho, Garland, Utah, Spanish Fork, Utah, United States Army Air Corps, Civil Air Patrol, C-54, William H. Tunner, Lucius D. Clay, Wright Air Development Center, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Hill Air Force Base, Air Command and Staff College, Maxwell AFB, Air Force Systems Command, Titan III , Brigham Young University, Utah State Agricultural College, Order of Merit of the Federal Republic of Germany Y

Placing review on hold. Hawkeye7 (talk) 23:00, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Hawkeye7, unfortunately Alexis has taken ill. Amgisseman can take a look at this nomination tomorrow though. I understand the prose problems, but I'm not sure what the problem is with the references. I did notice that one of them had a dead link in it; is that the issue? They all use citation templates, do they just need more of the fields filled out? Thanks for taking the time to review this nomination. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 21:21, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

What is holding up the nomination is not the prose, but the lack of citations for the statements in the first paragraphs of Professional career ("Halvorsen would serve as part of Air Force Systems Command for the next four years"), Legacy (" After his official retirement in 1974, Halvorsen continued to serve the local, national, and international community in a variety of ways"), and Humanitarian work sections ("Halvorsen also performed multiple candy drops throughout the United States"). These are marked with "citation needed" tags. Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:12, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Hawkeye7 On Alexis's behalf, I went in and added citations or new sources to that information in the article. Thanks! Amgisseman(BYU) (talk) 19:11, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

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