Talk:Gala (apple)

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Is Gala pronounced like "a gala party", or does it rhyme with Paula? Is the first "a" long or short? Is is pronounced differently in New Zealand and the US? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoodExplainer (talk • contribs) 16:49, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

The pedigree of Gala given in the article was recently changed to Red or Golden Delicious x Cox's Orange Pippin. While I have seen this pedigree given, I'm not sure what the authority behind it is. I've checked the US patent application for Gala, and it is indeed Golden Delicious x Kidd's Orange Red, so I've changed it back. Elakazal 21:03, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Kid's Orange Red is evidently an offspring of Cox's Orange Pippin and Red Delicious, so it would also be appropriate to say that Gala is [(Cox Orange Pippen × Red Delicious) × Golden Delicious] (my version wasn't quite right; however, it was actually an attempt to fix the broken wiki-link)

Resources for Gala pedigree = Cox's

• A cross of 'Golden Delicious' x 'Cox's Orange Pippin'.
• Gala [(Cox Orange Pippen × Red Delicious) × Golden Delicious]
• With a pink blush on a yellow background, the Gala was developed in New Zealand from Cox Orange Pippin, Golden Delicious and Red Delicious
• Gala is a cross of Cox's Orange Pippin and Golden Delicious developed by New Zealand plant breeders. (Same wording here)
• Derived from Cox’s Orange Pippin, Golden Delicious and Red Delicious

Resources for Gala pedigree = Kidd's

• The GALA variety sometimes is known as the KIDD's D-8 variety.
• Kidd's Orange X Golden Delicious Wairarapa, New Zealand
• Gala – private NZ breeding programme (Kidd’s Orange x Golden Delicious cross), introduced in 1965: red strains subsequently identified

Both

• Originating in New Zealand in 1934, it was introduced to the U.S. in 1981. Its parentage is from Kidd's Orange Red which was cross of Cox's Orange and Red Delicious.

I'll leave it as it goes. Maybe some of these resources would be handy for the article. agapetos_angel 04:40, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

I've reverted a change of "sports" to "sorts". Although "sorts" still works in the sentence, "sports" in this case is a term referring to genetic variants arising as mutations of a clonally propagated plant, generally bud mutations. Elakazal 19:52, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

"Sports" is correct in this case, darn it! Elakazal 20:16, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

For the zillionth time, it's "sports", not "sorts". Elakazal 03:09, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Merge Request

Is there any objection to merging Royal Gala Apple into Gala (apple)? The request has been up on Royal Gala Apple since Oct 2006. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 03:56, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Generally if a merge tag has no opposition for more than 4 weeks a go ahead for merging can be preformed. The "Royal" page seems to have been created by a user who plagarized information from other articles, and the content seems suspect, and there's no doubt that it refers to the same apple. Radagast83 04:22, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree! Except there was no comment at all left on either talk page. The mass delete and redirect without comment kind of looks suspicious even if well intentioned and completely in good faith. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 12:46, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

No objections yet to merge Request. It's been a week. I'll wait another week. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 22:15, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I would support such a merger, although to be clear on the "refers to the same apple", although Royal Gala is Gala, Gala is not necessarily Royal Gala. Elakazal 00:14, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Merged Royal Gala Apple into Gala (apple)

Merge complete per concensus on this page above. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 03:38, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Cultivar Vs. Cultigen

I added the term "cultigen" into the lede and removed it from the discussion of Royal Gala Apple. Although it is true that most of the Royal Gala Apple trees (perhaps all) are cultigens (that is, organisms of a sort that cannot be produced naturally), so are nearly all Gala apple trees (probably all except the original seedling). This kind of cultigen is produced by grafting the Gala (or Royal Gala or some other Gala sport) scion onto a non-Gala rootstock. The resulting organism is therefore chimeric, and therefore not exactly a clone of the Gala. Recognizing that a cultivar (cultivated variety) is an economically defined taxon, and that these cultigens were produced to grow Gala apples, they are examples of the Gala cultivar.

Of course, if the Gala cultivar were to be propagated via a stooling process (used to propagate clonal rootstocks), the result would be Gala on its own roots, which would not be a cultigen, but still a cultivar.

Whew! Jay L09 (talk) 16:56, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Season

The "Season" section left me rather confused when the harvests are in either the northern or southern hemispheres. -- Beland 02:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree, the info in this section is meaningless as things stand. The Royal Gala season info is also unclear. I bought a bag of new season English Royal Galas in the supermarket today, and they seem to be harvested in September and October in Europe generally. --80.176.142.11 (talk) 18:03, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

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Characteristics

Is it just me, or are the following sentences contradictory?

" They are also considered to be a very soft eating apple due to their lack of crispiness, well-suited for denture wearers. Quality indices include firmness, crispness, and a lack of meal worms!"

Either it's ambiguous and doesn't mean what I think it means, or it's saying that Gala apples are both soft and firm, as well as both lacking crispness and having much of it. From what I've eaten, Gala apples seem relatively firm, and as far as I can remember, they definitely are not "very soft." And clearly, the meal worms clause is unnecessary. (Stever Augustus 20:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stever Augustus (talk • contribs)

Edit Season section

The "Season" section needs an edit. Overuse of the word "some" and confusing references to different markets in the same paragraph. Consider splitting into subsections based on market/hemisphere? I'm not sure what exactly is meant in the sentence about the Australian season due to poor grammar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Expuddle (talk • contribs) 13:44, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Edited added citation in reference to the growing season of Gala apples. Oct 22, 2018. JillianKurolvech (talk) 03:00, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

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#1 in US?

The opening paragraph says that gala was #1 in the US in 2018. The reference links me to a more-or-less blank page. On the other hand, https://producegeek.com/gala-apples/ says it was projected to be #1 in 2019. Kdammers (talk) 07:00, 2 January 2021 (UTC)