Talk:Gallo-Roman culture

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This museum info is genuinely interesting and useful, but can someone clarify for me what the notion of having an article called Gallo-Roman, and why this would not be better placed in a "Culture of Gaul" section of Gaul? Djnjwd 17:25, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)needs more stuff

Gallo-Roman is a commonly user term, although this article does not really do it justice. Its poorly referenced, and the first two sections on the gallic empire and christianity are more disambiguation than anything else. The list of remains is useful, but there needs to be more introductory material to the article and there needs to be some new sections that discuss:

• the process of romanisation in the first centuries bce and ce
• the 'gallo' component (what made Gallo Roman culture different from other areas)
• second century overview
• third century disruptions (invasions and fortifications)
• (the existing brief gallic empire part would go here)
• late empire
• (the existing christian bit woud go here, perhaps some more on Gregory of Tours etc)

--Nantonos 17:27, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Excellent! You're on! Shall I set up the sub-sections? If you do them, add a Main article... header wherever the specific material of the subsection is already covered in depth elsewhere.--Wetman 23:05, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Contradiction

This article seems to contradict itself in that the introduction seems to limit 'Gallo-Roman' culture to what would become the Occitan region, while the body of the article mentions Ingelheim, Trier, Lyon, Périgueux and the Valais as Gallo-Roman sites. I think the timing here is wrong: the introduction should argue that Gallo-Roman culture persisted longer in the Midi, while in the north it was developing into Merovingian culture. In fact, there had been many north/south cultural differences even before the Merovingians. Q·L·1968 ☿ 08:05, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Note: I've now made a number of adjustments to resolve this contradiction and expand the article. I hope everybody finds these changes acceptable. Q·L·1968 ☿ 15:39, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Can someone please go into what exactly "Merovingian culture" was? The Franks conquered the area but the character of the majority population and their languages remained Gallo-Roman (in the sense of descendants of the indigenous Gauls speaking Romance languages). --98.114.176.218 (talk) 21:49, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

https://etc.ancient.eu/interviews/the-merovingians-the-lords-and-ladies-of-the-dark-ages/ -- HammerFilmFan

Gallo-Romans were the Romans that inhabited Gaul, not Gauls who spoke Romance. --86.220.227.224 (talk) 21:28, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

No. Read the lede of the article.

trying to find info on VICTORIANUS(?) Gallo Roman Empeor

Cant seem to loacte information of this Gallo-Roman Empeore VICTORIANUS(Do KI have tghe name right?) Have a coin from his reighn Thats all KI know about bhim? Thanks! Andre'SND,1016th2011.SPQRANDRE (talk) 20:58, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

"breakaway"

The Gallic Empire was not an attempt at independence it was an attempt at creating new emperors and ended when the last one abdicated and recognized Aurelian as emperor. I am going to fix it now; and the source is solid (How Rome Fell) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.56.186.182 (talk) 22:18, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

that's a view of that historian and others - but it is far from agreed upon by other scholars . . . 50.111.15.47 (talk) 19:21, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

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Done — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 04:53, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

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Assimilation/Adaptation

"The Gallo-Roman language persisted in the northeast into the Silva Carbonaria, which formed an effective cultural barrier with the Franks to the north and the east, and in the northwest to the lower valley of the Loire, where Gallo-Roman culture interfaced with Frankish culture in a city like Tours..."

The directions given don't read very well. Northeast of what? And wouldn't this have been one of the first places - and not the last holdout - where this Gallo-Roman language was lost having been the among the first places to have been invaded by Germanic tribes? Is "northwest" a typo? This would be southwest of the area where talking about, right? Someone please rewrite this to clarify. Criticalthinker (talk) 06:48, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Anyone? Criticalthinker (talk) 11:10, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Yes it is not a good sentence. Gallo Roman stretched beyond the forest into what is now the area of Wallonian dialects in Belgium.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 19:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Okay, but on the questions I posted, "persisted in the northeast into the Silva Carbonaria..." northeast of what, exactly? And northwest of what? Maybe I'm not understanding the geographical sequence in which this culture collapsed or where the center of the culture was. So describing directions isn't very helpful in the opening. Again, it'd seem that that the northern parts would have been the first places the culture failed instead of the last parts. Criticalthinker (talk) 23:09, 27 October 2024 (UTC)