- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: discussion seems to have dried up since the article was in fact renamed Kotniski (talk) 14:17, 20 November 2010 (UTC)Reply
Chuluuny Gankhuyag → Ganhuyag Ch. Hutagt — Malicious altering by "Latebird". Currently this is not the individual's name. Please undo this move. Olibn333 (talk) 06:02, 12 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
- In Mongolian sources, the name is most commonly given as Chuluuny Gankhuyag, following the usual form of Mongolian names (patronymic in genitive followed by proper name). The Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Mongolian) therefore indicate that we should use this form as well. A three part name with the proper name in front is very unusual, please explain. Or did he really formally rename himself to "saint"? And please assume good faith and stop your personal attacks. Your behaviour is very disruptive and uncooperative, and won't be accepted here for long. --Latebird (talk) 13:43, 12 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
- "Latebird", I am posting this again. I am Ganhuyag Chuluun Hutagt. This is the way I spell my name. My father's name is Chuluun, my family name is Hutagt, and my first name is Ganhuyag - foreigners call me Gan. Please, note that this is not the Government of Mongolia who decides how to spell my name. H without K. Please, change. For example you can spell Alyssa, Aliza, Alisa, Alyza, Alysa, right? As for Hutagt, this was the name chosen by my family in 1999, when the Government asked us to register family names and issued new ID cards. So this is official. Ganhuyag (talk) 02:16, 13 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
- Actually, if you happen to have a Mongolian passport, the Mongolian government does decide how it spells your name in the latin alphabet. And those passports that I have seen had Cyrillic 'x' transliterated into 'kh'.
- Of course if, as you did above, you explicitely indicate that you prefer your own version of your name, this might (not sure how it is handled on wp) be more relevant than what the Mongolian government thinks. Yaan (talk) 11:55, 13 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
"yaan" thank you. Indeed, I would prefer to have my name spelt the way I suggested above. I am a Mongol, I am a citizen but that does not mean I have to agree with my government. Kh was introduced to us by Russians or Soviets - that is how they prefer. Not me. In Inner Mongolia they use Huhhot for
their capital city BlueCity not Khukhkhot as you indicate. In Mongolia we have national IDs and only for those who travel abroad we have passports or rather travel passports, which are not used in the country. The government has not introduced the family names yet on those. Thank you for your understanding. Ganhuyag (talk) 14:40, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
"Yaan" and "Latebird" continued: if you were to google me up you will see that I am registered as Ganhuyag Chuluun Hutagt with all the organizations I am or was affiliated with or worked for or with: Microfinance Center, Frankfurt School of Management and Finance, CGAP, IFC, EBRD, TenGer, XacBank, WEF, FYGL, UNDP, UNCDF, SUM, The MixMarket, etc. All publications internationally will only carry the name as I spell it as well. Ganhuyag (talk) 14:53, 13 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
- I have moved this for now, and also raised the topic here. Yaan (talk) 16:10, 13 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
- Ganhuyag, maybe you can instruct your staff and other "fans" to reduce the amounts of vanity and immature behaviour they introduce into Wikipedia. Someone with your acheivements and position really shouldn't need this style of "support". Everybody else please remember that Wikipedia is intended to be a neutral encyclopedia and not an advertizing medium. Articles about living persons MUST be supported by independent sources. The words of a person himself may be gold in direct communication, but they do not count as sufficient evidence when writing about him in an Encyclopedia.
- As to the naming question, now that we have more facts on the table, your prefererd form may actually be acceptable in the end, depending on what the other editors think at the link given by Yaan above. Stay tuned! --Latebird (talk) 09:50, 14 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
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