Talk:Garden city movement

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• the claimed influence of the garden city movement on 'New Urbanism' and 'Intelligent Urbanism'
• the claim that most garden cities around the world are dormitory suburbs
• the TCPA's call for garden city principles to be applied to planned Eco-towns. Pondle (talk) 16:58, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Split Garden Suburb from the Garden City Movement

Given that the idea of Garden suburbs pre-dates the Garden City movement, influenced it strongly, and is defined as a separate concept, should the two sections be split into separate articles? Paradise Planned - The Garden Suburb and the Modern City is a new resource that strongly differentiates garden suburbs from the garden city movement. The garden city is an independent entity near a city with it's own industry, government, and neighbourhoods, while garden suburbs are either entirely residential or residential with some civic buildings and shops, but rarely industry and always dependent on a nearby metropolitan area. There are many examples of garden suburbs built in the 19th century, well before the Garden City movement was a movement. While the design of garden suburbs would be strongly influenced the Garden City movement they still remain separate.

There is a lot of confusion between the two terms so it would help reduce the confusion if we create a separate article.

There are number of new sources and discussions around the garden suburb, as being distinct from the garden city. It would be useful to develop the articles based on these sources, including, but not exclusively:

• Paradise Planned - The Garden Suburb and the Modern City
• Bedford Park: the first garden suburb: a pictorial survey
• Theory poorly practised: the garden suburb in New Zealand
• Changing Suburbs: Foundation, Form and Function
• The development of the garden suburb in Toronto

Overall I think it would be of tremendous benefit to separate the articles and improve the knowledge and awareness of garden suburbs as a 19th century form of city and neighbourhood building. The new article could be organized geographically i.e. Garden Suburbs in North America, Garden Suburbs in England, Garden Suburbs in Europe etc... and better indicated how different movements and architectural ideas influenced the design of garden suburbs.

Reval416 (talk) 15:57, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

This idea has been unopposed for 13 months, I believe it should now be implemented. The focus of the article is on a design movement (an idea)- garden suburbs are implementations (bricks and mortar) of many design movements. All they share is the word 'garden'. Who's going to be WP:BOLD?-- Clem Rutter (talk) 23:03, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Loss of productive farmland

Given the pressures on land use in many countries, we need to discuss the effect of encroachment on productive farmland of existing and proposed garden cities . Can this be offset by growing crops within the boundaries of garden cities?

STonyG (talk) 10:05, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

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Split discussion

I suggest the "list of garden cities" section is split into a a separate page. The content makes the page long and difficult to read.AttemptedEdit (talk) 04:03, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

• Strong support - splitting into a list will make both pages much more readable. Gazamp (talk) 13:48, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

• Support per previous

Geysirhead (talk) 11:41, 4 September 2022 (UTC)