Talk:Garmr

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was move to Garm (Norse mythology) as there was no objection. -- tariqabjotu 22:50, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

• Garm → Garm (Norse Mythology) … Rationale: There are several other topics, including Garm, Tajikistan, musician Kristoffer Rygg who goes by the nickname Garm, and Garmis, that use the name "Garm". I propose that Garm be turned into a disambiguation page … Please share your opinion at Talk:Garm. — David Straub 02:08, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

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References in popular culture

• The Doctor Who serial "Terminus" has a dog-like alien creature called the Garm.

• Digimon Frontier features a beast spirit itha wolf form named Garmmon

• Kristoffer Rygg, a black metal/experimental musician, went by the stage name of Garm.

• Aegidius Giles's dog in Farmer Giles of Ham by J. R. R. Tolkien is also called Garm.

• In the turned based Role-Playing Game Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones, the level-S axe Garm is one of the legendary weapons housed by Grado.

• In the MMORPG, Ragnarok Online, Garm is an MVP, or boss monster.

• Houndoom in the Pokémon series, is a reference to the Garm.

• In Boktai: The Sun is in Your Hand, an ice-wolf boss is named Garmr.

• In the popular computer game StarCraft, the primary assault force of the Zerg is named the Garm Brood.

• In one of the Oh My Goddess graphic novels, Garm is summoned by accident during an amateur seance.

• In Squaresoft's Final Fantasy VI, Garm is the name of a canine-type monster.

• In Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War, you play as the leader of the GALM squadron (a mistranslation of Garm).

• In Midway's Gauntlet: Legends and Gauntlet: Dark Legacy, an evil wizard named Garm is a key element of the plot, and, merged with the Demon Lord Scourn, is the last boss in Dark Legacy.

• Garm appears, in the New Mutants comic book, produced by Marvel Comics. He tells the heroes he will not harm them as they enter Hel itself, under his very body, but he will eat them if they attempt to escape.

• Faroese folk metal band Týr describes Garmr in a song titled "Garmr" on their 2019 album, "Hel".

Etymology questioned

Lincoln at 97 states garmr is Old Norse for 'dog' used as a proper name & notes related languages; article currently says its Old Norse for 'rag.' Unsure which is correct Deanlaw (talk) 21:56, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

There's a lot more to add to this article. An etymology section handling all of this will probably clarify the matter. :bloodofox: (talk) 21:59, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

ger- becoming Garmr and Kerberos is improbable

The article says:

Bruce Lincoln brings together Garmr and the Greek mythological dog Cerberus, deriving both names from a Proto-Indo-European root *ger- "to growl" (perhaps with the suffixes -*m/*b and -*r)[7].

This is highly improbable, since PIE /g/ becomes /k/ in Proto-Germanic and /g/ in Greek, which is the opposite of what is happening here. Not sure how to add this information to the article, though. (Does it count as "original research"?) 189.27.237.141 (talk) 08:03, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

• Maybe not /g/ but /gʰ/? Anyway, exact semantic coincidence and obvious phonetic similarity do not allow us to reject this hypothesis simply Raoul NK (talk) 07:50, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Also, the being Hel rules over the underworld with the same name. Just like Hades who rules over the underworld with the same name. This can't be a coincidence. The same dog (probably), the same underworld whose ruler shares it's name. 88.153.214.148 (talk) 02:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

• gʰ yields *g in Proto-Germanic but χ (kh) in Greek, so that helps not at all. And why can't Hel and Hades be a coincidence? Moreover, they only have one letter in common anyway.Linguoboy (talk) 14:31, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

I meant in comparative mythology terms. Hel rules over Hel. Then there is the dog Garmr. Hades rules over Hades. Then there is the dog Kerberos. 5.146.236.114 (talk) 05:30, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Kipling

Garm is the name of the dog in 'Garm — A Hostage', a short story in 'Actions and Reactions', by Rudyard Kipling. https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/k/kipling/rudyard/actions/chapter3.html I don't know whether this is worth including in the main article or not, and don't know how to do it if it is. So anyone please adopt it if you wish. Dawright12 (talk) 14:49, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

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Pronunciation guide

What is up with the pronunciation note?

[ˈɡɑrmz̠]

Where is the [z̠] coming from? Is that Proto-Norse pronunciation? This symbol represents a voiced alveolar retracted sibilant, right? My understanding is Old Norse has no voiced alveolar fricative at all. Doesn't a word-final ⟨r⟩ derived from a Proto-Norse *⟨-z⟩ ending typically realize as a syllabic alveolar trill in Old Norse? See for example bekkr and *bankiz. I'm not a linguist so I didn't want to edit it, but hopefully someone with more expertise can explain and correct it if necessary. If it is indeed Proto-Norse then maybe we should change the Old Norse label to Proto-Norse. Aminomancer (talk) 11:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)