Talk:Gary Plauché

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This is Jody Plauche. I made only a few small changes to the Wiki page. I thought it was well done. 184.46.92.148 (talk) 23:48, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/8486252/a-father-justice — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.186.6.1 (talk) 04:55, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

NPOV concerns

Given that Gary Plauche's actions by any objective standard qualify as a extrajudicial execution, there is going to be debate over the appropriateness of them. There is currently nothing in the article about the debate that went on at the time and even today over the whether his actions should be excused given what Plauche was accused of doing to his son or whether vigilante/extrajudicial killing is always wrong (no excuses), especially in this case given that Jeff Doucet had not yet been convicted of the crimes he was accused of (with jailtime the appropriate punishment to deter other would-be-vigilantes. --Notcharliechaplin (talk) 22:56, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

He was tried for the crimes he was accused of, sentenced and paid his debt to society.

If you dont like it then you should address your concerns to the DA with jurisdiction and of course feel free to speak up in defense of child predators all you like. FAFO. 2603:9006:100:A9EF:454:EDB8:FF8:2571 (talk) 19:07, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Plauche was a hero, and Doucet got what he deserved. The judge should have thanked him for his exemplary public service. 2601:647:4D81:4206:C161:FCE0:A332:AD05 (talk) 23:39, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

There's also the concern of people continuing to edit "American man" to "American hero" in the first paragraph. Looking at the history, this has happened repeatedly - to the point that this page might need to be considered for a lock. Komkast22 (talk) 04:31, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Agree, semi-protection would be a good idea. MaligneRange (talk) 08:07, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

I honestly don't care about the debate at the time (or the debate now, if any). I want the facts of what happened: not random options from people whose opinions mean nothing. I want to know what the judge thought.

If the debate at the time ultimately influenced something like an important Supreme Court decision (or something similar {which it didn't}) then sure… include it.

Otherwise, no one cares about what some random people thought in 1984 (even if it was televised).' 69.144.90.45 (talk) 02:48, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

"Plauche was accused of doing to his son" - I think you mean Doucet. Also, this wikipedia page is not for debating if what he did was right or wrong but rather to tell the story of what happened. Your clear bias for Doucet has no place on this page - maybe make a page for him and try to write your thoughts there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.5.95.130 (talk) 14:25, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Requested move - January 2, 2023

I think it would be better to move this article to "Murder of Jeffery Doucet" and expand this article beyond Plauché and include further information on Doucet. What do y'all think? Knightoftheswords281 (talk) 04:05, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

• I would support that. Seems like the event that is notable, not the individuals involved. Jdcooper (talk) 15:00, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 28 January 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) ❯❯❯ Raydann^(Talk) 06:28, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

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Gary Plauché → Killing of Jeffery Doucet – The central event of this article is more important than the individual who did it. I suggest renaming this article to "Murder of Jeffery Doucet" and moving biographical information about Gary Plauché to a specific section, as well as including info on Jeffery Doucet.
– Alternative: Gary Plauché → Killing of Jeff Doucet – Knightoftheswords281 (talk) 22:23, 28 January 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 22:18, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

@Jdcooper Knightoftheswords281 (talk) 22:24, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

• Comment Per WP:DEATHS, Killing of Jeffery Doucet would be the preferred title; Plauché was convicted of manslaughter, not murder. 162 etc. (talk) 23:18, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
• Support move and support alternative naming proposal from @162 etc.:. Jdcooper (talk) 02:51, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

  Changed. Knightoftheswords281 (talk) 03:17, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose I reject the nominator's rationale fully. Any of these proposed titles would not be neutral descriptors of an event but rather shift focus on who was killed. The similar articles suggested at the bottom likewise are titled after the vigilantes, not the events themselves. All of this observed in total suggests the individual who did it is more important than the event itself in isolation or the person who was killed. What should we even insert for Doucet? A memorial? --Killuminator (talk) 18:13, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
  • Without the killing, neither of these people would be notable in any way. Renaming the article allows for a more encyclopedic article about the whole affair. Jdcooper (talk) 22:37, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
    • It's not less of an encyclopedia if the article is titled after the killer. Should we retitle Issei Sagawa? Another case where none of the people involved have any notability outside a criminal event. Same with these vigilantes suggested at the bottom of the article. The choice of the title is not neutral encyclopedic formatting, it's a conscious framing device on what's the article about and I reject the idea behind the proposal. --Killuminator (talk) 22:45, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose. Given the circumstances, the current title is the best. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:13, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Oppose. A title with both names would be best. AliceXongile (talk) 02:34, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.