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editShould there be a second page go explain the meaning of Gate in "Watergate" "Portraitgate", etc.? (69.38.192.210 (talk) 17:44, 1 April 2009 (UTC))
Wikipedia seems pretty terrible sometimes
editI'm certainly not a knowledgeable Wikipedia editor, but I don't think "This article needs additional citations for verification" or that "adding citations to reliable sources" would "improve this article". And how could anybody challenge or remove any of the "unsourced material" currently here? I think adding more unsourced information would improve this article (talking about reasonably). As such, I am removing or reverting the January 2013 whatever-wikipedia-calls-it thing at the top. THAT would improve this article, I think. Who thinks the article was improved by adding that besides whoever added it? Certainly not me. Damn. 76.102.145.62 (talk) 16:21, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
The role of the 'gate' and the "torii" (Hongsalmoon, Paifang, and Iljumun)
editThe Japanese "torii", Korean "Hongsalmun", and Chinese "Paifang" are not the same as "gate".(The same goes for Korean "Iljumun"(or 'Iljoomoon'.) They are shaped like a gate, but do not serve any purpose of control like a normal gate, but rather serve as a 'signpost' (some of Japan's torii are even built in the sea, so how can a torii in the sea serve as a gate!) -Dreamy (talk) 04:03, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- See Orientalism. No, paifangs and their derivatives are precisely gates, end of. They happen to be decorated and from another culture, but they are exactly gates. Torii in the ocean are (theoretically) gates for the spirits. No, they are not "signposts". — LlywelynII 21:25, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
was previously hidden at the bizarre namespace boom barrier but (a) they are gates and (b) they need to be featured and linked much more prominently here. — LlywelynII 21:25, 13 June 2024 (UTC)