Talk:General Motors TBM-3E Avenger No. 86180

Why is this page necessary?

Sorry, but I can't begin to imagine why this is its own page. There is a fine page on the TBM Avenger already. This information could (and should) easily be placed within that page, in the "Survivors" section. I can't think of any reason for this separate stub on a single aircraft, let alone the title! What a mouthful!I suggest that this article be merged into the main article on TBM Avenger, or if the info is already there, then just deleted as redundant. I mean, does it require its own page just because it's on the National Registry of Historical Places? If so it ought to be clear that that is the purpose of this page. And it still doesn't make any sense to me..45Colt 19:41, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 2 February 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved & redirect created. (non-admin closure) ❯❯❯ Raydann^(Talk) 06:22, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

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TBM-3E "Avenger" Torpedo Bomber Warplane → General Motors TBM-3E Avenger No. 85460 – The current title is confusing and doesn't identify the article as being about a specific airframe. I propose that it be moved to be consistent with other aircraft identified by only their serial numbers, such as Boeing B-17G Flying Fortress No. 44-83690, Junkers Ju 52 WkNr 130714, and Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon No. 37396. I also propose that the current title be redirected to Grumman TBF Avenger. - ZLEA _T\^C 20:37, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

• Support - makes sense to me! - Ahunt (talk) 20:47, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose I'd rather support the earlier comment by contributor .45Colt: why must this be a separate article at all? Jan olieslagers (talk) 21:03, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
• Support - The plane merits its own article based on its listing on the National Register of Historic Places. Category:Individual aircraft of World War II lists articles for individual planes. Most of the planes have names and that's the title of the article. As cited above, there are two American-built planes that are numbered: Boeing B-17G Flying Fortress No. 44-83690 and Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon No. 37396, and the proposed name matches that convention. Alansohn (talk) 21:32, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
• Support - Per nom and Alansohn. BilCat (talk) 18:41, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The Title is incorrect

The # in the title is an entirely different aircraft than detailed in the article. The aircraft in possession of NAS Wildwood is #86180, not “#85460” AndrewLenz (talk) 09:37, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

It seems you're right. The National Register of Historic Places nomination clearly identifies the aircraft as BuNo 86180. I'm going to go ahead and make the move as it is unlikely to be challenged. - ZLEA _T\^C 23:17, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

It should probably be noted that 85460 is, or at least was, maintained in airworthy condition by the museum as N145WB. This is likely where the confusion originated. - ZLEA _T\^C 23:29, 17 February 2024 (UTC)