Talk:General Roman Calendar of 1969

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Elizium23 in topic "Current version"
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(Originally published here)

@Elizium23, I have just noticed you removed my link to celebrations list in the GRC 1969 article on WP:ELNO grounds. I have no idea why would that be prohibited by that policy. The policy in its first point says:

Any site that does not provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a featured article. In other words, the site should not merely repeat information that is already or should be in the article. Links that may be used to improve the page in the future can be placed on the article's talk page (see {{refideas}}).

Now file linked should be published on WP because:

  1. it does provide unique resource, which the WP article would contain (actually it contained) unless Wikipedia allowed such lists (see WP:NOTLIST);
  2. it does not merely repeat information that is already in the article;
  3. if it could be in the article, it would be, but it can’t, as per WP rules and policies;
  4. please don't add your usergen gitlab links here (the revision log text):
  • while I edited the list from the GRC article and provided sources for all celebrations, double-checked celebration names from English Roman Missal, I don’t think it can be considered user-generated more than any article on Wikipedia;
  • it is fully sourced (everything is cited and reference provided);
  • if the problem lays in using GitLab, then tell me where should I move it.

So, could you explain your removal please? First I had to ‘fight’ with Veverve, now with you … I simply want the celebrations lists accessible from WP articles, one way or another.

@Veverve, do you think that my celebrations list over at GitLab is against WP:ELNO, as @Elizium23 says? 7otto (talk) 13:48, 9 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Here is the problem, without the dates involved the General Roman Calendar of 1960 has, for instance, the Feast of Saints Cosmas and Damian on September 27 BUT accorded to the General Roman Calendar (current) the Feast of Saints Cosmas and Damian falls on September 26 ... I find that Wikipedia is confusing the readers with not having the dates ... Bob Tarver (talk) 01:02, 11 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

"Current version"

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The lede claims that the 1969 calendar as promulgated by Mysterii Paschalis is the "current calendar" in use today. This is inaccurate because there have been constant amendments and updates in the intervening 52 years. While the 1969 calendar abrogated the 1960 one in a very big way, we have come a long way again since then and we should make that clear to our readership. Elizium23 (talk) 06:31, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply