Talk:Genocide of indigenous peoples/Archive 8

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Going through this article and capitalizing every occurrence of the adjective Colonial, per the above suggestion, during an unsettled controversy about capitalization, with little to no discussion or consensus thus far, would be an unwise move. It seems that issue will present itself in due course, along with why there only token coverage in this article of the genocide committed by various groups of indigenous people to other indigenous people, and to colonists. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 21:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Doubling down on this 'natives were the real genociders' tack is certainly a bold move, I suppose, though I don't think the most current and reliable best sources (WP:SCHOLARSHIP) provide verification for the claims that are necessarily implied in such a tack, e. g. that Indigenous peoples the world over have colonized the colonizers and eliminated them, bearing in mind that the scope of this article is the intentional elimination of Indigenous peoples as a part of the process of colonialism (permanent link). Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 02:11, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Yes, but since various indigenous peoples have often played major roles in genocide towards other indigenous peoples, esp in Africa and North and South America, that topic would be an appropriate inclusion to this article. Existing accounts aren't covered nearly as thoroughly as those involving colonists, which seems to be the main thrust of this article Finding reliable sources that cover e.g.the exploits of the Aztecs, Congo wars, African slave trade, etc, would only be a matter of routine. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 16:40, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Another POV issue in the Israel section

In the Israel section the last statement is highly questionable, and is sourced by a NYT opinion piece.

" Statements made by Israeli officials have also been described by genocide scholars as dehumanizing the population of Gaza and used as evidence for "genocidal intent."

" genocide scholars"? Only one was cited, an opinion piece. There is no reference as to what statements were made by Israel officials that would indicate, let alone prove, intent. This statement needs to be reworded to reflect objectivity, sourced by more than one genocide scholar, and ideally, ones that share differing views. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 21:40, 21 June 2024 (UTC)