Talk:Geoffrey Toye

Best known for...

I took out the characterisation of what he is "best known" for. Some know him best from Ruddigore, and others for Haunted or his opera conducting years. So, maybe better to just let people read through?

The article is a little thin after 1936. Can we flesh it out more? How about a discography? Best regard, -- Ssilvers 18:44, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Much improved by your edits. Alas, practically no discography. A Delius disc or two and not much else. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tim riley (talk • contribs) 00:15, 5 March 2007 (UTC).

Ruddigore

Royston Nash restored The Battle's Roar and the Basingstoke finale in 1970s D'Oyly Carte performances, so it would be correct, meseems, to revert to my first draft on the content of the overture. What think you? Tim riley 23:12, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

The problem is that TOYE didn't cut both of those items from the show, but he did update the overture to reflect that they both had been cut (one by him and one by G&S). So, you could say something like that his overture excluded themes that had been cut from the show (over the years). -- Ssilvers 23:41, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Novel

I have removed the reference to Diana and Two Symphonies. The Musical Times, 1 November 1913, p. 734, does indeed say that Geoffrey Toye wrote it, but I now think this must have been an editorial slip, as the Times Literary Supplement (19 October 1913, p. 446) and the WorldCat/OCLC both give brother Francis as the author, (and the Musical Times article refers to the author of the novel as a music critic rather than a conductor). Francis, by the way, as a leading music critic of his day, is a deserving candidate for an article; I shall put him on my to-do list. — Tim riley (talk) 08:13, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for catching this error. Your pursuit of truth and accuracy is most appreciated, and I offer you this image of Sherlock Holmes accessories in honour of your exceptional sleuthing! -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:26, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Norris

Hulme says that Norris had something to do with the Ruddigore cuts (see the Ruddigore article for a description). Should we mention that? -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:32, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Always 'Geoffrey'

Yes, but it's unnecessary to point that out when the article is called 'Geoffrey'. Rothorpe (talk) 12:26, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

I am doubtful about that. See, for example, Percy Grainger, an FA article that does it this way. Do you know of a guideline that discusses it? -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:36, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

The MOS gives Fidel Castro, François Mitterand and Brian Jones as examples. Rothorpe (talk) 18:16, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

I see that you are looking at WP:FULLNAME. Jones is the only one of these where the first name is changed, and WP:FULLNAME does not directly address the question. So we have, as examples, both Jones and Percy Grainger, an FA article. That shows that there is good precedent for doing it either way. I'd rather leave it as is, then, as I think it is clearer. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:15, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

OK, then, thanks for the explanation. Rothorpe (talk) 20:21, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

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