Talk:Geometry & Topology
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editThe official name of the journal has "&", not "and". The page "Geometry and Topology" could be made a redirect to "Geometry & Topology". BjornPoonen (talk) 06:49, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- I'll just double-check this with Colin (the managing editor) but if it's correct then let's go for it. -- Nicholas Jackson, G&T production editor (talk) 21:11, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
- Please read WP:MOSTRADE first; we usually don't feel bound to follow the official formatting, especially if it is not usually used by the general public (which would be other mathematical citations here. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 14:32, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- Mathematical citations to the journal often abbreviate the journal name as Geom. Topol. (this is what MathSciNet does), which does not seem to decide the issue in either direction. The journal is often informally referred to by mathematicians as "G&T", which would seem to favor the "&" version. In any case, either the "and" version should redirect to the "&" version, or vice versa. It just seemed to me to make more sense for the nonstandard version ("and") to redirect to the standard version ("&"). The guidelines at WP:MOSTRADE don't seem to contradict using "&"; on the contrary, "&" is common in Wikipedia page names. For instance, Johnson and Johnson, Bausch and Lomb, and Stop and Shop all redirect to the corresponding pages with "&" in the title. BjornPoonen (talk) 05:11, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- The journal is often informally referred to by mathematicians as "G&T"...' can I have a reference for this? :-) Actually in my personal (and thus limited) experience, people in low-dimensional topology (a substantial chunk of the journal's intended audience) often just say "GT". So as you said for the abbreviation, this wouldn't favor either version....How would you be able to tell from someone saying "G and T" if they intended "&" anyway?? --C S (talk) 11:49, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- You can tell if it's in an email! Running grep on my email archive from Rob Kirby yields 8 lines with " GT" and over 100 with " G&T". I note that even in this talk file, Nicholas Jackson signs as "G&T production editor"! :) To be honest, however, my experience with topologists is almost certainly far more limited than yours. BjornPoonen (talk) 05:11, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- The journal is often informally referred to by mathematicians as "G&T"...' can I have a reference for this? :-) Actually in my personal (and thus limited) experience, people in low-dimensional topology (a substantial chunk of the journal's intended audience) often just say "GT". So as you said for the abbreviation, this wouldn't favor either version....How would you be able to tell from someone saying "G and T" if they intended "&" anyway?? --C S (talk) 11:49, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- Mathematical citations to the journal often abbreviate the journal name as Geom. Topol. (this is what MathSciNet does), which does not seem to decide the issue in either direction. The journal is often informally referred to by mathematicians as "G&T", which would seem to favor the "&" version. In any case, either the "and" version should redirect to the "&" version, or vice versa. It just seemed to me to make more sense for the nonstandard version ("and") to redirect to the standard version ("&"). The guidelines at WP:MOSTRADE don't seem to contradict using "&"; on the contrary, "&" is common in Wikipedia page names. For instance, Johnson and Johnson, Bausch and Lomb, and Stop and Shop all redirect to the corresponding pages with "&" in the title. BjornPoonen (talk) 05:11, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- Please read WP:MOSTRADE first; we usually don't feel bound to follow the official formatting, especially if it is not usually used by the general public (which would be other mathematical citations here. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 14:32, 7 April 2008 (UTC)