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Latest comment: 17 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion
I removed this passage: "The neutrality of Van Driem's methods came under question when an independent group of scholars investigated the Bangani debate after his rebuttal of Klaus-Peter Zoeller's admittedly fanciful thesis. Upon field investigations, Van Driem was found to have travelled with a linguist from Pune only to the transit town of Mori, which lies outside the borders of Bangan by all local accounts. His absolute dismissal of the Kentum thesis thus followed a fieldwork conducted outside a linguistic territory for which it was proposed. The consensus at the end of that field trip by scholars indicated a non-professional basis for his rebuttal, riding merely on his reputation as a himalayan language expert, a territory he seems keen to control in the manner of a monarch." a) Unsourced and clearly contested information. b) no context is given for the "Bangani debate". c) contains unnecessary editorialising. - Nat Krause(Talk!)04:36, 6 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
Here's the link that I think fills the missing context referred to above:
www-personal.umich.edu/~pehook/bangani.html
Interestingly, the above link shows that Zoller's response to the accusations van Driem presented against him in JIES was not accepted by this academic journal.
To my understanding, time has done its gentle job and nowadays Zoller's discovery of kentum substrate in Bangani is mostly digested by the academic circle who read an publish in JIES: see for instance recent brief statements of M. Witzel about the subject. Nevertheless, more publications (hopefully also in JIES) about the subject are needed.
-LMP.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.181.50.11 (talk • contribs) 20:37, 6 August 2007 (UTC)Reply