Talk:Georgia Florida and Alabama Railroad

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Name of railroad

Latest comment: 5 years ago6 comments3 people in discussion

@RoySmith: I thought it better to discuss this here than in the AfC comments :-) Yes, I added one WP:RS for the "Railway" version of the name. That appears to be the legal name of the railroad, at least as authorized. It wasn't uncommon to railroads to use both at various times. It might be worth mentioning that in the article, with appropriate sources. The Mirror Cracked (talk) 23:49, 1 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Hi. Looks like we might have both moved it at the same time, to different titles. The end result is a little confusing. Looks like my move is the one that worked, and your move ended up as a redirect. I'm fine with either title, either of which is better than the original "Georgia Florida and Alabama". -- RoySmith (talk) 23:52, 1 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Yes, that was an unexpected result when I tried to move it. I agree that either is better than "Georgia Florida and Alabama. I suggest we leave it where it is for now. I'm going to try to dig out some more sources and see if we can figure out which is the more common name. Best, The Mirror Cracked (talk) 23:54, 1 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Behind the NY Times paywall, but this short 1932 financial notice refers to "Georgia, Florida, and Alabama Railroad". And this (likewise paywalled) 1955 obituary also calls it, "the Georgia, Florida and Alabama Railroad". I have no clue how much of that is the official company name, and how much is just NY Times house style. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:18, 2 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Having done some digging, and expanding the article a bit, it seems "Railroad" is more common that "Railway", so I've updated the lede appropriately. The Mirror Cracked (talk) 06:20, 2 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

All the official documents I've seen including those cited innthe article refer to it as Railway and the abbreviation RY which seems to be for railway is also used. FloridaArmy (talk) 02:05, 3 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
- For now, I've added a note pointing out the uncertainty in the name. -- RoySmith (talk)

Dubious?

Latest comment: 5 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Hi @FloridaArmy: would you care to expand on why you marked "in 1872 the project was abandoned amidst allegations of fraud by Kimball" as dubious? This is direct from the cited source. The Mirror Cracked (talk) 00:13, 3 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

I'm not seeing a note of fraud allegations by Kimball or against Kimball (which is it?) in that page. The page linked does discuss town planning and the influence the planned rail line had including on the location of county seats and county courthouses. FloridaArmy (talk) 00:19, 3 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

It says: "In 1872, this early scheme for a north-south line through southwestern Georgia disintegrated into a cloud of allegations involving the illegal endorsement of state guaranteed bonds and the questionable financial dealings of the notorious railroad promoter, Hannibal I. Kimball". Page 513, left-hand column, halfway down. 00:24, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. His article blames the Great Chicago Fire for the loss pf his raikroads. FloridaArmy (talk) 01:02, 3 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

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