Talk:Georgia in the American Civil War

WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 14:36, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Info Box has several structural errors

The info box on this article has several stylistic errors, i.e. brackets, image tags and more. This is more complicated than other info boxes I have dealt with, so I am at a loss as to how to correct the errors. A Softer Answer (talk) 21:10, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: Page moved: it is very clear where this is going, so I won't raise the issue of soldiers from the Caucasus participating in the US Civil War. Ground Zero | t 17:00, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

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Georgia (U.S. state) in the American Civil War → Georgia in the American Civil War – Disambiguator is unnecessary here because no one will reasonably expect this to be an article on anything but the U.S. state of Georgia. In the context of the American Civil War, this is the clear primary Georgia. This is also consistent with other titles relating to Georgia in U.S. history, such as Trustee Georgia and Georgia in the American Revolution. bd2412 T 14:47, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

• Support, top points for nominations, Gregkaye ✍♪ 17:56, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
• Support - Seems logical.--Yaksar (let's chat) 18:07, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
• Support - per nom. Rjensen (talk) 18:55, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
• Support - logical name convention ... GELongstreet (talk) 19:50, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
• Support. Nom's argument makes sense. Egsan Bacon (talk) 23:37, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
• Support there is no reason for anyone to assume that the country of the same name was involved in this war.--69.157.252.247 (talk) 00:24, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
• Snow Support. No need for a parenthetical disambiguator in this article title; the rest of the article title is a natural disambiguator (per WP:NCDAB). Since this pagespace has been moved and moved back previously, User:Hmains might have better served the community by creating a requested move discussion like this one prior to the last move. It appears consensus doesn't agree with that editor's reasoning given in edit summary, "standard name convention for such articles". BusterD (talk) 01:21, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
• comment I changed the article name to match its parent category name, Category:Georgia (U.S. state) in the American Civil War and other subcategories within that parent category. This discussion makes no mention of this category situation and is thus incomplete and misleading. And we all know that the category names, with (U.S. state) in them, will not change: all requests to change any of them are repeatedly rejected. Why insist on having a main article of a category not match the category name? What is the benefit here to the WP reader? Hmains (talk) 01:35, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
  • I'll bow to Hmains's more extensive history with the naming issue here. However, since recently there was a rather spirited discussion in CFD (a process I follow on an irregular basis), I would have liked to have been made aware of it in this space, by edit summary or talk page entry. I see good points on both sides. For my part, I find the criteria at WP:NAMING leads me to prefer NOT having the disambiguator in this pagespace, consistency being a lower priority (IMHO) than conciseness, naturalness, and precision. We may need to host a larger discussion, since this process so far is quite one-sided. BusterD (talk) 02:01, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
    • It is common to drop disambiguators or otherwise use shorter forms for titles on subtopics where there is little chance for ambiguity. See, for example:

      Madonna (entertainer), but Madonna bibliography

      Usher (entertainer), but Usher discography

      Brandy Norwood, but Brandy discography and List of songs recorded by Brandy

      Hillary Rodham Clinton but Hillary Clinton presidential campaign, 2008

      Wolverine (character) but Wolverine in other media

      and of course Georgia (U.S. state), but Georgia in the American Revolution.

    • bd2412 T 03:14, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
    • Also, by the way, this extends to distinctions between articles and their containing categories. For example, Category:Madonna (entertainer) concert tours is the category, but the lead article is List of Madonna concert tours. Cheers! bd2412 T 15:14, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
• Strong support and also move the category Red Slash 20:36, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
• Support Per nom and later explanation by nom. (I would not quarrel with BusterD's comment.) Donner60 (talk) 01:42, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
• Support and WP:Speedy close/move. --В²C ☎ 07:40, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
• Support. Whilst I believe Georgia usually does require disambiguation on Wikipedia this is a clear case of where it does not. Zarcadia (talk) 12:45, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Since the contribution of the area of Russia (as it was then) to the ACW was doubtless negligible at best! Disambiguation for dogma's sake is pointless and makes Wikipedia look daft. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:21, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

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New lede 22/12/15

I realise that my new lede does not entirely summarise the main article. But the earlier one didn’t either, and I feel that the new one summarises the topic better, so it might be the main article that needs to be edited accordingly. Valetude (talk) 11:22, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

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