Talk:Gerald Warner
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editThis article cites five references. I can find no obvious peacock terms, nor can I find evidence of a conflict of interest.--Oldcaledonian (talk) 16:03, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- User:Oldcaledonian (is that you, Gerald?): you claim that "the article cites five references". Well, no it doesn't. In fact, it cites five articles written by Mr. Warner, the subject of the entry. Those aren't "references", any more than say, articles written by L. Ron Hubbard could be considered "references" for claims made in the Wikipedia entry on L. Ron Hubbard. That's called "circular reasoning" and it's not legitimate support for a claim. "No obvious peacock terms"? How about the man's name?! He claims to be "officially styled" "The Most Honoured the Laird of Craigenmaddie", which is as peacock of a term as you can get, differing from claiming one's name is "Lord God Almighty" only in degree, not in kind. The very nature of "official" means "authorized by the offices of the authority". What authority granted Warner this title? Not even his own "five references" explain this, nor have I been able to find any other source. This entry makes explicit claims that aren't supported by objective, external sources. That's what Wikipedia requires. If a claim isn't supported with such, it has to be removed. And so I shall do, unless such support is added. Bricology (talk) 16:52, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
This page is absolutely hilarious. Is this a real person? Really?81.97.40.158 (talk) 22:28, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
"Official style"? According to whom?
editThe entry reads "Although his legal name in the United Kingdom is 'Gerald Warner of Craigenmaddie' (with the official style of The Much Honoured the Laird of Craigenmaddie)..." I don't know for certain if in the UK (as in the US) anyone can legally change their name to anything they want (which would only serve to further ambiguate the origins of his "legal name"), but no mention is made of what body gave Mr. Warner "the official style of The Much Honoured the Laird of Craigenmaddie". There is no source citation in the entry. A Google search of the phrase "Laird of Craigenmaddie" turns up just 18 results, all of which point to this Mr. Warner. In lieu of any such background information, and in lieu of any pedigree to explain a hereditary title, I can only assume that Mr. Warner made up his own "official style", or purchased some "lord of the manor" type faux-title, or perhaps had it given to him by some branch of fantasy royalty or fantasy chivalric orders. In short, the claimant needs to provide reliable external support for this claim or remove it. If it's not tended to within a few weeks, I'll prune it out myself. Bricology (talk) 07:58, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
The funny thing is, such titles are usually intended to impress, whereas they make the bearer appear to be an even bigger bell-end than he is already. He can call himself Maisie Tinseltits of Dingly Dell if he likes, but I’d advise against it.Matthau (talk) 18:34, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Legality of name is only controlled in Scottish law, not in UK. Rathfelder (talk) 18:43, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
Grammatical suggestions for my new edit
edit"In 2014 it was announced by press release that Gerald Warner would be writing for www.traditionalright.com. In a second press release, it was announced that Warner was currently writing a satirical parody of Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead to be published under an open source license."
Please let me know if there are any issues with this paragraph. Yours, a sincere friend. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seansimon1974 (talk • contribs) 06:41, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
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