Talk:German Workers' Party

Requested move

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

-Support. There was also a German Workers' Party in Austria-Hungary, German Workers' Party (Austria-Hungary). Maximilian II 21:59, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I would propose turning this into a dismabig page linking to the Austrian party and the NSDAP and merging the content into the latter. After all, it is one an the same party, not just a predecessor. Str1977 ^{(smile back)} 23:00, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

The NSDAP article is already quite large, so maybe the opposite should happen, move non-essential DAP material from within the NSDAP article into this article? Maximilian II 05:07, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

It appears to me that this article is the primary topic, is that correct? If so, I oppose the move per disambiguation naming guidelines: "When there is a well known primary meaning for a term or phrase, much more used than any other [...] then that topic may be used for the title of the main article, with a disambiguation link at the top." A German Workers' Party (disambiguation) page can be created if/when there are more than two potentially ambiguous articles. --Muchness 01:28, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Oppose. There's no need for a disambiguation page when there's only two pages. And since I'd imagine the majority of Wikipedians would assume the same as I would, i.e. that the "German Workers' Party" is a Germany party, I don't think we need to disambiguate further. The current setup, using the {{For}} template at the top of the article, seems the most straightforward solution to me. --DeLarge 16:00, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. --Stemonitis 16:06, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Founded by von Sebottendorff in 1918

According to the Rudolf von Sebottendorf article, the party was founded by him in 1918. Consequently, one or the other is wrong. __meco (talk) 12:02, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

The article has been corrected by edit, with WP:RS book cites. He was not a founder of the DAP. Kierzek (talk) 04:39, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

The first 54 DAP members

I think it would be very interesting to know the names and something about the lives of the first 54 members of the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, that is to say, those who joined the party before Hitler (who was its 55th member) and before becoming NSDAP. I don't know if it is possible to get such a list, apart from Harrer, Drexler, Feder, Eckart, Rosenberg and Hank, whose names are mentioned in the article. Vasconicus (talk) 07:01, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

To 187.67.42.221...

...just because something is anti-capitalist does not make it left wing. Just because something is anti-communist does not make it right-wing. While you are free to make an attempt to explain yourself, please stop with the original research. Dustin (talk) 01:02, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

187.67.42.221; You should read the frequency asked question section of the Talk:Nazi Party article page; it states in part: "Almost all historical and present-day academic literature places the Nazi Party on the far-right of the traditional left-right spectrum, which in turn is the most common short-form classification used in political science. The Nazis themselves attacked both left-wing and traditional right-wing politicians and movements in Germany as being traitors to Germany. While the Nazi regime's economic policies are very different from those of present-day right-wing parties that adhere to classical liberal or neoliberal positions (which advocate, e.g., a highly deregulated, privatized economic environment), Nazi economic policy was typical of the early to mid twentieth century far-right, and indeed most political currents of the time, in that it embraced interventionist economics. The Nazi Party absorbed the far-right reactionary monarchist and nationalist German National People's Party into its membership in 1933. The Nazi Party also held good relations with openly right-wing political movements in Europe, such as the Spanish Confederation of the Autonomous Right, whose leader Gil-Robles was a guest at the 1933 Nazi Party Nuremberg rally and sought to model his movement upon the Nazi Party." Kierzek (talk) 03:17, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Far Right?

Are you sure about that? I'm pretty sure that rightists are big into Capitalism, but it says here that these people were very anti-Capitalist. Is this a mistake in the article? Basically, isn't anti-capitalism a left-wing idea? Thanks.2606:A000:7104:6B00:ED8D:D2BD:FB97:E18D (talk) 20:50, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Another IP removed the mention, but I reverted it as an undiscussed change. No; "anti-capitalism" is not exclusively a left-wing idea. You'll notice that the party held a number of ideas that the left would scoff at if you read closely enough, and these ideas were only expanded after the German Workers' Party was renamed the National Socialist German Workers' Party (a misnomer, considering the party espoused fascist ideals). Dustin (talk) 07:23, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

Nonsense. Fascism exists in both far-left and far-right. It actually written in ENGLISH WIKIPEDIA under the article of "fascism". Communist regimes were very fascist. While they opposed communism concept they were very close to them economically. Anti-Capitalism certainlly puts them at far-left. (while, again, Fascism exists in both sides.)

Sign your posts with four tildas. That said, nope. The TP is not for the discussion of unfounded personal opinions / whacked-out fringe ideas. 50.111.13.35 (talk) 19:28, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

German Workers Party and DAP were one and the same

"In July 1919, he was appointed Verbindungsmann (intelligence agent) of an Aufklärungskommando (reconnaissance commando) of the Reichswehr to influence other soldiers and to infiltrate the DAP. While monitoring the activities of the DAP, Hitler became attracted to founder Anton Drexler's anti-Semitic, nationalist, anti-capitalist, and anti-Marxist ideas. One day Hitler received an order from his superiors to investigate the nature of an organization called The German Worker Party where he was ordered to attend a meeting of theirs and report on the situation."

This is a duplicated report. German Workers' Party is the English for Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (DAP).

Fixed. Kierzek (talk) 21:00, 27 September 2019 (UTC)