Talk:German destroyer Z3 Max Schultz
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Rename article to German destroyer Z3 Max Schultz
editIn copyediting this article, I noticed that the photo name was Z 3 Max Schultz.jpg - and following the links to other WP pages found that indeed Schultz is correct - the de:Max Schultz page even has a photo of the ship's namesake's gravestone. After amending the article, I'll move it. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 04:11, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
- Now all fixed.
- N.B, The correct name can be found in this source, but not in this one, which may be the source of the original error. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 07:35, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Orphaned references in German destroyer Z3 Max Schultz
editI check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of German destroyer Z3 Max Schultz's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "ks7":
- From German destroyer Z16 Friedrich Eckoldt: Koop and Schmolke, p. 97
- From German destroyer Z1 Leberecht Maass: Koop and Schmolke, p. 77
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 15:58, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
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Reviewer: MisterBee1966 (talk · contribs) 12:22, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
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I will base my review on Hildebrand, Röhr and Steinmetz volume 6 pages 55 to 57. MisterBee1966 (talk) 12:22, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
Hildebrand, Hans H.; Röhr, Albert; Steinmetz, Hans-Otto (1993). Die Deutschen Kriegsschiffe. Vol. 1–10. Ratingen: Mundus Verlag. ASIN B003VHSRKE.
- First commander was KK Martin Baltzer, later Viceadmiral and chief of the Marine Personalamt (chief of the naval personnel office). Teddy Suhren would later have his discepancies with Baltzer
- Added.
- 308 sailors lost their lives
- Added.
- the new bow increased length from 119m to 119.3m
- Added.
- the 6 x 2cm guns were augmented by further 2 x 2cm guns, at the time of her sinking she had 8 x 2cm guns
- Gröner says the light AA armament wasn't increased to 8 x 20mm until mid-1942.
- Now tell me, why and how would the Germans add two guns to a sunken ship in the middle of the North Sea? MisterBee1966 (talk) 16:49, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
- I rather expect that he's talking about the surviving ships in general.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:03, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
- Would that apply to the type 1934 and 1934A class destroyers? I mean not that many stayed around long enough to see 1942 MisterBee1966 (talk) 17:57, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- There were more of the 16 that survived to '42 than you might think, so it may be more relevant than you think.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:12, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- Would that apply to the type 1934 and 1934A class destroyers? I mean not that many stayed around long enough to see 1942 MisterBee1966 (talk) 17:57, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- I rather expect that he's talking about the surviving ships in general.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:03, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
- Now tell me, why and how would the Germans add two guns to a sunken ship in the middle of the North Sea? MisterBee1966 (talk) 16:49, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
- Gröner says the light AA armament wasn't increased to 8 x 20mm until mid-1942.
- I recommend to use the full name of Kampfgeschwader 26, not the abbreviated KG 26 version
- Done.
- "Fleet review" links to "Fleet review (Commonwealth realms)"; Is this appropriate here?
- Lacking a generic Fleet Review article, what else can I do? I can delete the link entirely if you'd prefer. Thanks for the review.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:28, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
- Just food for thought! Just because I find this awkward does not mean that it is inappropriate. MisterBee1966 (talk) 17:57, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- Lacking a generic Fleet Review article, what else can I do? I can delete the link entirely if you'd prefer. Thanks for the review.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:28, 3 December 2011 (UTC)