Talk:German submarine U-534

Cargo

{{There is an untold story about the cargo, which was not gold, but concerns various objects of esoteric value to the wartime government and its backers. Arthur Borges/Zhengzhou, China

However, nothing was found. Imho all the stories about a treasure on the boat are just castles in the air.Gray62 (talk) 19:25, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Why was opening delayed?

In February, we were told that the exhibition would open "in July", but now we're being told "next year". That seems a very long delay. What caused it? 81.159.58.45 (talk) 23:04, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Cutting up

Were there any protests over the decision to cut up the hull? It could be regarded as an act of vandalism. Drutt (talk) 20:37, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Bit late to answer, sorry, but I recall no protests at all - though my view is that the act was one of serious disrespect, and I will not visit the new "cut up" exhibition. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:42, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

I recall seeing the whole submarine at Birkenhead and it looked impressive and menacing. It was very rusted and it looked like a ghost ship of war. I recently saw the finished display and the submarine has now lost the visual impact. It has been cut into sections and badly painted so that it no longer has any grandeur or impact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.176.105.141 (talk) 11:45, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

The original reason for cutting it in to four parts was taken by the original owner to prevent it from having to be sold for scrap. It needed to be moved, and the only way it could be moved at the time was to split it up into four sections; otherwise it would have been scrapped. --Earnulf Gery (talk) 12:11, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Dubious

This concerns the claim about the presence of T11 torpedoes on board the U-534. When U-534 was still on display at Birkenhead at the Historic Ships Museum (and shortly before the museum closed), I and a friend went on a guided tour of it. Speculative reasons for the U-534's fleeing rather than surrendering were covered by the tour guide, and also explained in literature at the exhibition. They centered on the possibility that high ranking Nazis were trying to escape to South America, and that gold and/or other treasures might be on board. There was no mention made of the discovery of any T11 torpedoes. That is not evidence they weren't there, of course, but it does perhaps add to the dubious nature of the claim - had they been present, it would seem likely that the tour guide and the museum exhibition would have made some mention of them. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:37, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

According to the official guide book the U-534 carried three acoustically guided torpedoes as well as a number of normal torpedoes. After recovery the three T11 torpedoes were taken away by the Danish navy to be disarmed. One of them is currently on display at Birkenhead. Racklever (talk) 08:44, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Ah, that's good - thanks for providing a ref. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:28, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

The U534 message breaking project

This project broke 17 !! Enigma M4 messages from Uboat U534 the last two weeks. They used a software Turingbombe. More messages will follow. They used 112 CPU cores.

Project website: http://www.enigma.hoerenberg.com 217.81.48.230 (talk) 13:25, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Fiancial problems

I gather that from salvage to final display the project was plagued with financial problems. Details of these issues should be included in the article as these may help explain the delays, the site selected for display and the cutting of the boat into four sections. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.176.105.141 (talk) 11:48, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

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Property Rights

Could somebody explain why a German sub recovered from Danish waters ended up in British hands? Sounds like just another example of Anglo-Saxon predator capitalism. --Reibeisen (talk) 14:39, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Well, you could read the source material... "HAVING raised U-534 after 48 years on the sea bed and combed through her treasures the question was: where should she now be preserved?

Businessman Karsten Ree, who financed her recovery, worked hard to find a suitable solution.

After the fall of France in World War II Liverpool became the centre of operations against German u-boats in the Battle of the Atlantic.

Coupled with Merseyside’s rich maritime history it was decided the perfect home for U-534 would be the Historic War- ships Museum on Wirral."

The Danish guy who paid for the recovery gave it to the museum. MartinezMD (talk) 20:24, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Anti-Aircraft Armament

The Design section, the Armament section, and the infobox all disagree on how many and which AA gun(s) U-534 carried. Some of it seems to just be copied from the default armament of the class. The available sources also contradict but they do agree that the AA armament was changed during at least one refit. 2603:7080:A402:9099:3801:6037:7958:FA6B (talk) 06:02, 9 May 2021 (UTC)