Talk:Germanic toponymy
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Valais
editHow about Wallis/Valais? --82.250.11.14 19:35, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Just what I was going to say. Done. --Groogle 23:25, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Obviously not a placename, but what about the last name Welsh? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.227.95.245 (talk) 11:45, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Southern France, Italy and Spain
editI took out these countries from the list, because they do not have a real Germanic toponymy : there are only places-names which are in fact words already borrowed from Germanic by Latin or northern French (for instance burgus > burgo, borgo, etc.) and they never appear in typical Germanic compounds. Others are only Germanic personal names contained in the place-names.Nortmannus (talk) 07:53, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Sub-Loirean France, Italy and Spain
editNot just 'Southern France' should be offlist then, why not widen it to something like: 'Sub-Loirean France' and furthermore, the rump of France left north of the river Loire, should NOT list as French Germanic toponyms placenames from the recent annexations of Flanders and Elsaß-Lothringen' and mayhap, even any Germanic toponyms found in Brittany(?). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.151.234.43 (talk) 21:22, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
-trecht or -tricht
editIn Dutch a recurring suffix is -trecht or -tricht, derived from Latin "Trajectum". Don't know if there are cognates elsewhere. 88.159.71.34 (talk) 18:37, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
- This toponymic appellative (not a suffix) is not Germanic as you say and it existed in Old French with the same meaning trajectum > trait e.g. le Trait or maybe Carteret (Cartraio or Cartreio 1125, Chartrai 1156, Kartrait ~1210), not to be confused with trait in F and in E, from tractum. I think we can take it out, because, as far as I know, this word was not borrowed by Proto-Germanic from Latin (like mill or tile for instance).Nortmannus (talk) 19:07, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Minder to self
editkey in :de: followed by a placename to link German wiki, example: de:Sandbach rather than Sandbach,England.
Cottam means cottages. It is the plural of cot.
editThe spelling of Cottam just happens to look like it bears -ham- in it, normally the plural of cottages in placenames comes out something like 'cotton'. Again, it is NOT cott+ham but an cotten/cotton/cottan/cottam plural thing going on as also seen in names like Clerkenwell and oxen.
Nevertheless, it might be worthwhile and inlightening to keep false-cognates like Cottam (it isn't the only one) listed to show how the roots of placenames can be misleading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.65.142.56 (talk) 06:45, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
-by
editI was wondering why there is no section for the suffix '-by' in this list? I would have thought it would be one of the most obvious ones to have in - or is there a reason why it is omitted? --Abc26324 (talk) 13:26, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
- The list is just massively incomplete. Feel very welcome to add referenceable entries. 2A02:1811:4D08:B600:1C94:4B17:D4FE:3975 (talk) 12:28, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
Bytheway, (reckon out of all the sundry Germanic toponym cognates) -by ending British, German and Scandinavian placenames are the most difficult cognates to tell apart from oneanother. Spelling conventions like Willoughby, Søby, Söby, Schuby - are as good as it gets in the way of fingering-out the homelands of -by ending placenames.
Wonder if -port- (town) is a sundred of -thorp- cf. O.E þorp (also thorp).
editport/þorp/thorp)found in such placenames as:
Portswood Porthund Portisham Portingtown Portsmouth(?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.5.237.140 (talk) 01:25, 13 March 2018 (UTC)