Talk:Ghanaian cedi/Archives/2015
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Wrong move
I mistakenly moved the page to Ghanaian (P)ound. It should be Ghanaian (p)ound, like all the other examples such as Malawian kwacha, Malawian pound, Rhodesian pound, Rhodesian dollar, Zambian pound, Zambian kwacha, etc... That needs to be undone and moved to Ghanaian (c)edi, which was someday the title of the article. Sorry for this burden, but accidents happen. Krenakarore TK 21:40, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
There's a Move to Ghana cedi here which probably explain why Ghana cedi, although I disagree with what was said 7 years ago. Krenakarore TK 21:48, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
- There is no such thing as a Ghanaian Cedi. There is the Ghana Cedi, the current currency of Ghana. There is a Ghanaian Pound, a Cedi and a New Cedi, old currencies of Ghana. But A Ghanaian Cedi has never existed. Why this move without discussion? This move should be changed back to Ghana Cedi witch is the right name. It might be wrong in British or American English gramma. But these kind of english is not the only english in the world. If another title than Ghana Cedi is wanted for this article then lets discused it. A new name could be Ghanaian Currencies. But Ghanaian cedi is simply wrong. Jack Bornholm (talk) 02:20, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Requested move 28 January 2015
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The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. Cúchullain t/c 21:10, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Ghanaian Cedi → Ghana Cedi – Ghana Cedi was the former name of this article as it is the official name of the current currency of Ghana. There has never excisted such at thing as a Ghanaian Cedi, but there has been several with one of these words in Ghana. The Ghanaian pound, The Cedi and The New Cedi. Jack Bornholm (talk) 02:30, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- What the national bank of ghana say is the name their own currency: [1] and a little history from the same official website: [2] Jack Bornholm (talk) 02:55, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- Comply ! Krenakarore TK 14:03, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
Comment: I think there's a confusion here. Jack Bornholm is obviously an expert on Ghanaian matter and I appreciate him/her for pointing out that "Ghana cedi", and not "Ghanaian cedi", refers to the 3rd cedi started in 2007. But I still have question about that claim. In this article, the first sentence says "the old Ghana cedi [second cedi] notes and coins to cease to be legal tender". I can't help but to wonder, if the central bank using "Ghana cedi" for the 3rd cedi is just a fluke? Typically, Wikipedia article would group a number of differently-valued currencies of the same name from the same country as one article, like the Yugoslav dinar, Turkish lira, and the Brazilian cruzeiro, even though one of those generations may be known as "new blah" to differentiate with the old. If the term "Ghana cedi" being a proper name for the cedi proved to be true, maybe we can clarify that in the first paragraph? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 10:12, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you for the nice comment, but I am not a expert. I simply live in Ghana and uses the cedi every day. I wonder how many of the hardworking editors here is actually from Ghana? At the market where I buy my food no one calls it the Ghana cedi. Instead they refer to the New Cedi as the old cedi and the Ghana cedi as the new cedi. Even though it is years ago many will still use the old value (adding four zeros to he price) while shopping. I have no idea why the Central Bank keeps calling the current Cedi for Ghana Cedi. When the Cedi was replaced with the New Cedi they stopped mentioning the word new in all documents some years after the introduction of the New ced. But now 7 years after the change in currency the central bank continues to use the term Ghana cedi, so that is the name of the currency. Fluke or not.
- That is why the title Ghanaian cedi is wrong. If there only had been one currency with that name of if the current currency was not named Ghana Cedi then it would not be a big problem. But right now the title is disinformation. An alternativ solution if the title Ghana cedi is not acceptable would be to name it Ghanaian cedis. in plural the article would be about the money that have been used in the area today known as Ghana since the 17th century. Then the redirect from Ghana cedi could lead not to the top of the article but to the part of the article talking about the 21th century currency. Jack Bornholm (talk) 19:25, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Comment: ChoChoPK, I think this is already well explained. It was my mistake to have taken a comment on the Numis-WP talk-page as an obvious reference to the article's name. Nonetheless, if the Bank of Ghana states that the new currency is Ghana (C)edi, then who I am to say the opposite? If I had checked the article's talk page first, this mistake would never have happened at all. I believe you are right in the sense that including the Ghanaian Pound in the article would create a multiple issue, but I also believe that nothing might prevent Bornholm to create an article on the history of the Ghanaian currency and include the Ghanaian Pound the way that he intends to do. This is all quite confusing to me once I know nothing of the matter, so I abstain and leave the decision to others who know more about this issue. I should have never come here in the very first place. Best to you all, and please forgive me. Krenakarore TK 01:01, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose. The article title is chosen for consistency and recognizability, it is not supposed to represent an "official" name. "Ghanaian" is a descriptor only, in the same way as "Algerian" is added to budju and "Angolan" is added to kwanza. (While budju and kwanza are primary topics, as is cedi, the descriptor is added for clarity and consistency across articles.) The page should however be at Ghanaian cedi. DrKiernan (talk) 12:16, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
- Move to Ghanaian cedi per DrKiernan. I see "Ghanaian" more as a descriptive adjective than an integral part of the name. The cedi should not be capitalised though, currencies usually are not. — Amakuru (talk) 14:01, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
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Requested move 30 March 2015
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The result of the move request was: Moved per request Mike Cline (talk) 15:05, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Ghanaian Cedi → Ghanaian cedi – Consistency with Category:Currencies of Africa. DrKiernan (talk) 16:27, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
- Support GregKaye 07:52, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
- Support per nomination. There seems no compelling reason to capitalise. — Amakuru (talk) 10:56, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
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