Talk:Ghazni Province

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Looks like the districts have been split - there now appear to be twenty (http://www.aims.org.af/services/mapping/geo_codes/398_dist_matching_to_329.xls). I'll try to get it up to date eventually, but there's a hell of a lot of other missing districts to sort out as well. --OpenToppedBus - Talk to the driver 17:48, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

History

Maybe it is a good idea to start this article with the chapter about the history of Ghazni? (Rob)

Buddhism and Indian influence

Here s the complete quote , a section of which I have incorporated in the History section along with the complete citation .

“ If we leave the Gandhara by the Khyber pass we come out in the plain of the Kabul river where the great monastic complexof Hadda near present day Jalalabad was erected around a Stupa containing a Relic of Buddha . The site may be regarded as the first relay station between the art of Gandhara and the art which was to spread through Afghanistan and throughout Central Asia .The iconography which appears in Hadda is the expression of a Buddhism in which there is still no clear differentiation between Buddha and Bodhisatva . Besides the favourite material of the artists of Hadda (second fifth centuries ), which the modeled and painted , is the one we encounter most frequently in Central Asia .

In order to reach Bactria and Sogdiana it was necessary to cross the Hindu Kush by way of the valley of Bamiyan . There and in the neighbouring valleys (Foladi and Kakrak) an important religious center developed whose influence was to develop far beyond the local frontiers . Neither the accounts of the forms of Buddhism found in Bamiyan (provide mainly by Chinese pilgrims ) nor the archaeological remains tell us anything very definite .However that may be the colossal Buddhas and the paintingsalready reflect the transformations that were gradually to lead the religion to Mahayana .

The two other great Buddhist centers , Fondukistan and Tepe-e-sardar (Ghazni) in its later phase are a very different matter and display another phase of influences coming from India from the seventh to eighth century . The representations show themes from Mahayana iconography and even in the case of the latter site assume Tantric aspects which had already established themselves in the large Indian monasteries like Nalanda.

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Cheers
Intothefire (talk) 07:32, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Vandal deletion by anonymous user 85.176.80.6

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Please do not remove cited content . Cheers
Intothefire (talk) 05:07, 13 July 2008 (UTC) Intothefire (talk) 05:10, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

References

ghazni is one of yr  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.86.29.93 (talk) 06:57, 19 May 2009 (UTC) 

Requested move 8 May 2016

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The result of the move request was: Not moved Mike Cline (talk) 13:58, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

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Ghazni Province → Ghazni province – Not a proper name. Baking Soda (talk) 11:19, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

• Oppose what makes this different from other articles in Category:Provinces of Afghanistan? SSTflyer 08:06, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose. Not the standard naming convention on the English Wikipedia for the provinces of Afghanistan. Filpro (talk) 21:22, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

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Ethnic Data

Someone keeps changing ethnic data without solid reference. The ethnic hazara area in Ghazni province has low population density as it is central Afghanistan, while pashtun area is more fertile.. therefore more population density... here is a study of UNHCR which shows the ethnic breakdown of the province.

Tajiks form a major portion of the population in the northern woleswalis of Khwaja Omari, northern Jaghatu, Deh Yak, Andar and Qarabagh. 'Ihe Maco Khel (Durrani Pushtun) are in Khwaja Omari and the Jalozai in Waghaz. Ghilzai Pushtun are the dominant group in the centre and south. 'Ihe Ghilzai Andar are in Andar, Deh Yak, Qarabagh and Giru, and their sub-tribe, the SUleiman Khel, in Deh Yak, Moqor and Waghaz (Ghazni centre) • 'Ihe Ghilzai Taraki are in Ab Band, Gelan, Moqor, and some in Giru. Other Ghilzai tribes are: Mir Khel and Girdar Khel in Zena Khan; Nasir and Khattack in Nawa; nomads in Andar and Qarabagh (rut also migrating to the Hazarajat); some Kharoti in Giru. Hazaras are the dominant group in the west. Ihe Niazis, once an exceedingly powerful tribe in the Shilgar area of Ghazni, have been scattered due to feuds with the Andars and to their area being too small to support them. Niazi moved eastwards in the direction of the Indus as far as Mianwali where their descendants still live. Niazis remaining in Ghazni are usually nomads and are chiefly camel breeders. http://afghandata.org:8080/jspui/bitstream/azu/3323/1/azu_acku_pamphlet_ds374_g53_g53_1990_w.pdf 182.180.61.170 (talk) 12:16, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

I modified the Ethnic groups in the demographics section based on the map by Mehrdad Izady from 2004. Izady's map is the most detailed ethnic map I have found on this topic. A UN report from 1990 is now almost 30 years out of date and it's also unclear how reliable it would have been to begin with given the conflict at that time. As Izady points out on the map I referenced, reliable reports on ethnic data for Afghanistan are difficult to find and he specifically mentions those provided by the UN through the UNHCR.Jaghuri, according to Izady has some Pashtun/Hazara/Uzbek populations. He also cites Parsiwans in the province.Monopoly31121993(2) (talk) 21:21, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

https://web.archive.org/web/20051027174636/http://www.aims.org.af/afg/dist_profiles/unhcr_district_profiles/centra/ghazni/qarabagh.pdf101.50.68.180 (talk) 09:00, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

The reality on ground is that pashtuns are more than 65% of the population of the province, as per all empirical evidence..by changing the number on wikipedia without any data can misguide people but doesn't change reality on ground 101.50.68.180 (talk) 09:00, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

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Information about ghazni

Edit Ghazni (Dari: غزنی; Pashto: غزني) is one of the 34 provinces of Afghanistan, located in southeastern Afghanistan.[3] The province contains 19 districts, encompassing over a thousand villages and roughly 1.3 million people,[4] making it the 5th most populous province. The city of Ghazni serves as the capital. It lies on the important Kabul–Kandahar Highway, and has historically functioned as an important trade center. The Ghazni Airport is located next to the city of Ghazni and provides limited domestic flights to Afghanistan's capital, Kabul. 80.244.19.108 (talk) 12:42, 22 October 2022 (UTC)