Talk:Gifford Nielsen

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Jgstokes in topic Updated Church MOS vs. Wikipedia LDS MOS

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The following was incorrectly placed at Talk:Gifford Nielsen/Comments, when i should have gone here, so moving here. -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 20:15, 30 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

How about some stats? The man is in the College Football Hall of Fame.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.67.218.127 (talkcontribs) 01:43, 11 December 2008‎

I removed a category that I felt didn't apply

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I had a problem with a category that was recently added to this article. The category that was added attempted to classify Nielsen as being among Latter Day Saint leaders born in the United States. This category, in my mind, is not relevant. Here's my reasoning, which I share for those who may not be familiar with the history. Latter Day Saints are classified as those who adhered to the religious movement founded by Joseph Smith. When Smith was killed in 1844, a succession crisis resulted, with several groups who traced their origins back to the religion started by Smith claiming that they are the rightful successors to that movement. The largest of these so-called splinter groups is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Many leaders in the LDS Church have been categorized as being part of the Latter Day Saint movement, but that particular categorization does not, in my mind, apply to any who were never involved in the original movement started by Smith. And since it has not been reliably proven which of all the splinter groups is rightfully the true successor to the movement started by Smith, those who belong to the LDS Church and never personally had any part in the original movement should be categorized as such. With that in mind, I wanted to get this verified by consensus and to see if we could, in any way, find a category that is more relevant to Nielsen. He does not belong in the general Latter Day Saint category because he was born well after the splinter group in which he is now a leader was separated from the others. At least, that's my opinion. Thoughts? --Jgstokes (talk) 03:12, 10 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Updated Church MOS vs. Wikipedia LDS MOS

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Hello again, everyone! As outlined here, there is a big difference between the updated MOS from the Church and Wikipedia's manual of style relating to articles about the Church. That said, both of those manuals of style are in agreement on one point: The full name of the Church should be used in the first reference thereunton in each article about Church-related topics. After that, abbreviations remain acceptable. Therefore, it is inappropriate for any Wikipedia user to try and incorporate the full name of the Church on every mention thereunto in every article about Church-related subjects. Post any questions on this on the talk page to which I linked above. Thank you. --Jgstokes (talk) 00:38, 11 March 2019 (UTC)Reply