Talk:Gimme Some Lovin'

Ain't that a lot of love

Wikipedia claims here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ain%27t_That_a_Lot_of_Love

"(Ain't That) a Lot of Love" is a 1966 song written by Homer Banks and Willia Dean Parker. The Spencer Davis Group utilized the basic riff for their 1966 song "Gimme Some Lovin'"

They are very much the same songs. Homer Banks recording preceded the Spencer Davis Group. If I read this correctly, a copyright infringement suit about this has just been settled in court in 2017: https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=3e3d3b00-25dc-4a06-9517-2805cc051a04 , and Homer Banks (children) lost.

In this light, the success story in this article - "We hadn't been there half an hour, and this idea just came." - may sound less credible :-)

--217.104.69.33 (talk) 21:49, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

The Big Chill Soundtrack

I think that the reference to the song being included in The Big Chill should be qualified because people who buy the CD will be confused. The song is, in fact, in the movie. It is even on the original "Big Chill" record entitled "The Big Chill - More Songs From the Original Soundtrack" {Motown, 1984], which I own. Oddly, however, it doesn't appear to be on the CD versions of the soundtrack. I have both the original soundtrack CD and the re-issue CD with bonus tracks, and the song was omitted in both. Boopsie 18:33, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Thamesmen not Ameriprise

I believe there is an error with the Thamesmen statement. "Gimme Some Money" by the Thamesmen sounds nothing like Spencer Davis Group's "Gimme Some Lovin." Additionally, the Thamesmen song "Gimme Some Money" was used by AmEx, in a credit card commercial, not Ameriprise Financial. Ameriprise Financial does have a commercial with "Gimme Some Lovin," but it most definitely is not "Gimme Some Money" by The Thamesmen.

Xarlor 19:11, 26 September 2007 (UTC)Xarlor

"Gimme Some Money" is pretty clearly a parody of the early Beatles recording of "Money (That's What I Want)", as indeed the Thamesmen themselves are a parody of the early Beatles (and similar britpop groups).

Huntz0r (talk) 07:05, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Title

As per the Guinness Book of British Hit Singles & Albums the song title is "Gimme Some Loving" - not "Gimme Some Lovin'". Time for a move ?

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 21:37, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

No objection - then it is done.

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:42, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

As per pretty much any other source (including the actual original packaging), it's "Lovin'" - moving it back.Sbamkmfdmdfmk (talk) 19:17, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Correct Composer Credits

The article intro currently has the composers as "Steve Winwood, Spencer Davis and Muff Winwood".

However, significant references have differing composer credits.

The UK single media label (Fontana TF 762) has the composer credits as "Stevie Winwood".

The US single (United Artists Records UA 1665) media label and US "Gimme Some Lovin'" LP (United Artists Records UAL 3578) back cover and media label similarly have the composer as "S. Winwood".

However, Steve Winwood's official site details are:

Revolutions - The Very Best of Steve Winwood box set (2010) has "Winwood/Winwood/Davis".

This agrees, apart from ordering, with the European release artwork which has "Spencer Davis, Muff Winwood, Steve Winwood".

Autumn '66 similarly has "S. Winwood, M. Winwood, S. Davis".

This agrees with Japan reissues (2006 and later, which list the track as a bonus track) which have "Winwood/Winwood/Davis". Of the 29 releases currently on discogs.com, the vast majority having artwork listing track details, only the Japanese releases have this track.

Gimme Some Lovin' has "J. Miller, S. Winwood", where "J. Miller" is album co-producer Jimmy Miller. This contradicts the corresponding US LP artwork which has "S. Winwood" and the other details on Winwood's official site.

That said, the 1967 UK compilation LP 'The Best Of The Spencer Davis Group Featuring Stevie Winwood' also has the composer credits as "S. Winwood, M. Winwood, S. Davis".

I am inclined to believe that "Steve Winwood, Spencer Davis and Muff Winwood" currently in the intro is correct, though the ordering may not be perfect. But, given the differences with earlier releases that have the composer as just Steve Winwood, I believe a citation confirming the current compose details is warranted.

Wantnot (talk) 12:00, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Terry Reid

[copied from User talk:Ojorojo]: Terry Reid’s cover deserves to be part of the page, despite lack of user reviews. Hamsterbird (talk) 02:25, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

@Hamsterbird: This appears to be your personal opinion or original research. Neither of the two sources you have cited actually have anything to say about Reid's version. It's merely listed as a track on two albums, so the only thing that the sources show is that his recording exists. This makes it no different than the dozens (check the AllMusic and secondhandsongs links in the article) of versions that also exist. In case you haven't read the WP:SONGCOVER links or quotes, here it is again:

Cover versions/multiple renditions

Only cover versions/renditions important enough to have gained attention in their own right should be added to song articles. When a song has been recorded or performed by more than one artist, a particular artist's rendition should be included in the song's article (never in a separate article), but only if at least one of the following applies:

• the rendition is discussed by a reliable source, showing that it is noteworthy in its own right. Merely appearing in an album track listing, a discography, etc., is not sufficient to show that a cover version is noteworthy; cover songs with only these types of sources should not be added to song articles, either as prose or in a list.
• the rendition itself meets the notability requirement at WP:NSONGS.

For lists of recordings by date, use an instance of {{Timeline-event}} for each entry; see WP:DATELIST.

To add his version to the article, there needs to be a reliable source that actually discusses it. Notice that each of other versions mentioned in the article have reliable sources that have some commentary about the version. Without this, anyone could argue that any version "deserves to be part of the page". The project consensus, as reflected in SONGCOVER, is that WP song articles should not include all versions of a song and is consistent with WP:NOTEVERYTHING.

I notice that Reid's version was added without a source on 3 May 2021 by 68.193.175.208 (talk · contribs).[1] After it was removed as a part of general article cleanup, it was re-added by:

• Mr. Dude Lebowski (talk · contribs) on 9/9/22[2]
• 32.132.36.30 (talk · contribs) twice on 10/9/22[3][4]
• Hamsterbird (talk · contribs) twice on 10/9/22[5][6] (first article edits by new account editor)
• Hamsterbird on 16/9/22[7]
• Hamsterbird on 30/9/22[8]
• Hamsterbird on 2/10/22[9]

All have been reverted, with some identified as additions by sockpuppets. Are you also associated with these accounts?

—Ojorojo (talk) 14:13, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

No. Hamsterbird (talk) 16:53, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Besides this article, Hamsterbird has made nearly the same edits[10] to Thomas & Friends (series 2) as the now blocked users 32.132.36.30[11] and Mr. Dude Lebowski.[12] Edits by the three usually involve TV series, movies, etc. (Reid's version of "Gimme Some Lovin'" appeared in a film). —Ojorojo (talk) 15:44, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

IPs are continuing to add Reid's version:

• 96.242.83.103 (talk · contribs)
• 206.121.241.86 (talk · contribs): supplied a user review that was added two days prior to AllMusic[13] (user-generated content, see WP:NOTRSMUSIC)

—Ojorojo (talk) 16:01, 31 October 2022 (UTC)