Talk:Giuseppe Sammartini

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Sturm und Drang

Latest comment: 2 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

kind of perplexed about the Sturm und Drang reference. As a movement, it is supposed to take place later and it has much more romantic flavor. Also, the bibliography included supporting this statement seems generic. In other words, who did associate Sammartini's work with the Sturm und Drang movement? --Mbegali (talk) 17:21, 26 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

Mbegali, you are correct. Several sentences in this article, imho, mix up Giuseppe Sammartini with his younger brother, Giovanni Sammartini. See my other comments here in the "Talk" section. LewisChessman (talk) 21:04, 6 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Picture

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

The picture shows his brother, Giovanni Battista Sammartini (painted by Domenico Riccardi)! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.212.107.78 (talk) 09:08, 2 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

A confusion of brothers

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The article states:

"Although Sammartini wrote in a later Baroque style, he also incorporated many Classical elements.[4] Sammartini was forward thinking as a composer, and even used ideas such as a galant style and Sturm und Drang, (the idea of extreme and stormy emotions).[5] Sammartini had other clearly forward thinking musical trends.[6] An example of this would be the number of movements in some of his concertos and symphonies."

The author has evidently confused and conflated Giuseppe Sammartini with his younger brother, Giovanni Sammartini.

It is the younger brother Giovanni — who outlived the elder brother by 25 years — who is the symphonist, and who is associated with the galant style and with "Sturm and Drang."

Note that the text of the Roy Pascal citation (Pascal, Roy (1952) "The Sturm und Drang Movement") does not refer to any music, musicians, or composers, let alone specifically to either of the Sammartini brothers. As reference material, the Pascal citation is virtually useless in this context.

Note that the Paul Everett reference (Everett, Paul (1994) "Releasing the Energy in Italian Instrumental Music") literally conflates the two brothers by referring to a nonexistent "Giuseppe Battista Sammartini."

In the "Further Reading" section the Bathia Churgin citation (Churgin, Bathia: "The Symphonies of G. B. Sammartini. Vol I: The Early Symphonies") is clearly to the younger brother rather than to Giuseppe. LewisChessman (talk) 21:01, 6 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

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