Talk:Glendora, California

Sister City?

What makes a Japanese and a Mexico city "sister cities?" Why 9is that section in there, does anybody know? Damotclese (talk) 17:01, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

--> There is a student exchange program between Goddard Middle School and one of the schools in the Japanese "sister city" of Moka. I'll add this to the main page, though it will have no citations. I have no idea how Merida is of significance. Anyone with more information, please add to this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.175.94.213 (talk) 23:38, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

There is now a citation for the Glendora-Moka student exchange program. I dug around on the web for a few minutes and found that Sandburg Middle School also has a sister school in Moka. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.175.94.213 (talk) 23:32, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

The Sister City section may be removed if we can agree that it is unnecessary. See the section "Suggestion: Promotion to C-Class" which is currently at the bottom of this talk page for the reasoning behind the removal suggestion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.175.94.213 (talk) 00:55, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Sister City dead link

The link to the Glendora page for the "Sister City" reference is dead. I suggest we relink to http://www.sister-cities.org/ or something suitable which explains what a "Sister City" is, lacking a fix from the Glendora web site people, or lacking a fresh link that actually works. Damotclese (talk) 17:10, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Sexist, possessive language

. For every 100 females there were 93.2 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 89.6 males. -- This is worded as if males belong as the property of females, as if we're talking about property, not people. There must be a better way to work the rhetoric to describe the percentage of gender mix without using the word "for" which in this grammar denotes the possessive case. Damotclese (talk) 16:35, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

That's pretty standard language. Are people really interpreting that to mean there is possession involved? Udibi (talk) 03:32, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Crime rate

I see that an unreferenced claim about low crime rate was removed. Crime rate statistics may be found at this location https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/glendora/crime if anyone wants to add the reference to the extant article. SoftwareThing (talk) 15:12, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion: Promotion to C-Class

I haven't been around Wikipedia long. There's this thing called a quality scale. It rates the quality of articles. As of early December of 200, this article is rated Start-Class. Any member of WikiProject California is free to add—or change—the rating of an article, but please follow the guidelines. We need to change the quality rated to C-Class, but I'm not part of WikiProject California. Below are the requirements for Start-Class and C-Class:

Criteria for Start-Class: The article has a usable amount of good content but is weak in many areas. Quality of the prose may be distinctly unencyclopedic, and Wikipedia:Manual of Style compliance non-existent. The article should satisfy fundamental content policies, such as Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. Frequently, the referencing is inadequate, although enough sources are usually provided to establish verifiability. No Start-Class article should be in any danger of being speedily

Criteria for C-Class: The article cites more than one reliable source and is better developed in style, structure, and quality than Start-Class, but it fails one or more of the criteria for B-Class. It may have some gaps or missing elements; need editing for clarity, balance, or flow; or contain policy violations, such as bias or original research. Articles on fictional topics are likely to be marked as C-Class if they are written from an in-universe perspective. It is most likely that C-Class articles have a reasonable encyclopedic style.

This article is clearly better than a Start-Class. The prose is reasonably encyclopedic. With 45 citations, the referencing is not inadequate. A C-Class article may contain bias or original research and need more clarity or balance.

Update: The notable people section and filming sections are the weakest points in the article. The sister cities section is also somewhat weak. Nonetheless, the article cites more than one reliable source and is more well-developed than Start-Class articles.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.175.94.213 (talk) 00:20, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

I agree, the "sister city" stuff is weak and adds nothing to the wiki entry, it's a "nobody cares" kind of thing and just clutters the article. And the "notable people" is just as weak, most of the entries are people who aren't notable, not famous, they're people nobody has ever heard of which also makes the article poor.

Also it does seem to be worthy of a "C" now despite those two problems.

We should remove the "sister city" stuff entirely, and we should remove the "notable people" who aren't, then the article's quality would improve considerably. SoftwareThing (talk) 16:09, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

I agree. The "sister city" stuff isn't of actual value to the article. We should probably remove it, but we shouldn't remove it without greater consensus. We need to be careful about which notable people we get rid of. We shouldn't remove people if they had a major contribution to a field or won an important award. We also need to make sure they actually live/lived in Glendora. If we can't find a reliable source that says a person lived in Glendora, then we should remove them. All people removed from the notable people section should be put somewhere on this talk page. I noticed Fettlemap removed the citation for Bryan Clay, an Olympic gold medalist, and rightly so. The citation provided was accidentally advertising. We need to add citations for the notable people and filming sections, but they have to be reliable and non-promotional ones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.175.94.213 (talk) 00:44, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Recent Edits to Notable People

I recently went through the entire notable people section of this article to check if all the people lived in Glendora at some point. I added 6 citations and removed 6 people. I removed the following people from the list of notable people:

• Michael Anthony (musician) - From what I can tell, he has never lived in Glendora.
• Blitzkrieg - This linked to the military tactic, but the page said it was a glam metal band. I went to the disambiguation page for Blitzkrieg, and found that while there are two English rock bands by that name, there was no glam metal band by that name from Glendora.
• Harry Snyder and Esther Snyder - After some research, I concluded that neither of these individuals lived in Glendora. They lived in Baldwin Park. However, their granddaughter, Lynsi Snyder, appears to have been born in Glendora.
• Austin Victoria - This was very confusing. It seems Austin Victoria is a kind of car.
• Rozz Williams - According to several biographies, Rozz Williams never lived in Glendora.

I invite other editors to review my edits. If necessary, restore a person to the list. If one of my citations broke a Wikipedia policy, remove the citation. As long as my entire edit is not reverted, I am happy if changes are made to the article. PrinceTortoise (talk) 23:27, 23 January 2021 (UTC)PrinceTortoise

Thank you for doing that, I did a spot check of some of the names and found that literally everyone I checked was not even remotely "notable," they were just people who seem to have gotten some media coverage at one points in their lives and then disappeared, as best they are "people from Glendora" or who have lived in Glendora yet aren't even remotely notable.

At the same time, people who are notable, such as Thomas Don Reinberger, are not mentioned people who have or had decades of service to the City and were covered more frequently in news and television at one time, are not mentioned. The list of people bears considerable pruning and additions.

I also note that Donut Man and other economic "power houses" like The Hat are not mentioned. The article here could benefit from having a section noting famous businesses which comprise a significant tax source that is disproportionate to the run-of-the-mill businesses which come and go.

Recall that we used to have a Brown Derby East on the corner of Grand and Alosta a.k.a. Route 66. That used to be a fairly famous landmark for decades, and it's something of a shame that the article here doe snot touch upon a wider history of the city. SoftwareThing (talk) 17:17, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Prehistory

Pinging @Udibi: It seems unlikely that the Shoshone we're linking to were actually the first people to inhabit the Glendora area. The Tongva and Shoshoni languages are both Uto-Aztecan languages, but that doesn't mean that the Shoshone arrived in California in 6000 BC as the city website states. The source used in the Shoshone article states that the Shoshone originated in Great Basin—not Glendora. I think the city website is using inaccurate terminology. The source I previously added mentioned a California Shoshonean (also known as Takic) group of which the Tongva are a part. A scholarly source concludes that the Takic people entered coastal Southern California in 3500 BC. I'm not certain what to make of this situation, but I'm leaning towards trusting the scholarly sources over the city government. PrinceTortoise (he/him) ^{(poke • inspect)} 22:36, 21 November 2024 (UTC)