Talk:Gloria (Umberto Tozzi song)
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Wolf of Wall Street appearance
editI'm removing the ref to the Wolf of Wall Street soundtrack appearance as it had been entered in the First Recorded Versions section which should contain no references to the Laura Branigan version. A reference elsewhere in the article would be viable: however it should be done with a source.
I've learned that the Wolf of Wall Street soundtrack in fact features the Tozzi original - in fairness to myself the info I deleted didn't specify which version was featured. However I do wish I'd investigated the matter at the time instead of deleting the info. I am of course restoring the info & also noting Tozzi's Gloria being featured in the soundtrack of the Chilean film Gloria with online sources provided.--Cherrylimerickey (talk) 02:34, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
Soft original?
editHave you actually listened to Tozzi's version of the song? It is not a soft love ballad. It has the same arrangements as Laura Branigan's version.
- I agree. The article needs POV cleanup and some corrections. Will work on it. --Beamrider 21:42, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure what contentious material has been adjusted over the last few years. Listening to the original version of Gloria I'm surprised Laura Branigan would describe it as soft but as that is her quoted impression I think it must remain in the article. I can only assume LB was referencing Tozzi's vocal style and her vocal on the song certainly has a lot more bite. However without an evident quote specifying LB was describing Tozzi's voice as soft I don't think we can speculate in the article that such was indeed the case.--Cherrylimerickey (talk) 22:09, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
What about the version of Gloria released by the Irish group "Them" with Van Morrison around 1964? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.191.173.67 (talk • contribs) 02:47, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
Gloria!!
editwowzers that awesome that mees —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.202.162.16 (talk) 20:00, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Italian lyrics vs. English
editAre there much differece between the 2 sets of lyrics and should that be addressed here? Ttenchantr (talk) 00:33, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- Everything is different. It is anything else but a "afterwards translated to English by Jonathan King." The English version rather is a persiflage.2A02:8108:9640:AC3:4D1E:3FB7:101F:2728 (talk) 15:43, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
Release date
editThe release date of the single "Gloria" could not have been 4 August 1982, since the single's debut date on the Hot 100 was 10 July 1982. A more likely release date would have been sometime in June 1982 or possibly earlier by a month or a few months. The date 4 August 1982 likely refers to a release of the long version. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.51.120.185 (talk) 00:18, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Requested move
edit- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:18, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Gloria (Umberto Tozzi/Laura Branigan song) → Gloria (Umberto Tozzi song) — No need for such a long title. Umberto Tozzi was the original performer of the song, so it is enough to put just him in the title for the disambiguation reasons. Vanjagenije (talk) 10:20, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. The song came to prominence well before the Laura Branigan rendition/cover. We should also set up a redirect from Gloria (Laura Branigan song) (which already points to this article). Mindmatrix 17:09, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support one or the other disambiguator but not both. Prefer Umberto Tozzi since he was a co-writer of the song and the original performer. — AjaxSmack 17:34, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
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1979 demo for Laura Branigan?
editI've put a "citation needed" tag on the statement "Branigan first sang "Gloria" as a "demo" in 1979" asking for a reliable source. The background given of the recording of Branigan's hit version - which includes a quote from Branigan herself - would indicate she was totally unfamiliar with the song when it was suggested she cut it in 1982. - October 2010
Deleting Branigan demo statement as there's been no followup on the "citation needed" tag.Cherrylimerickey (talk) 21:48, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Prominence in Flashdance
edit"Although Branigan was represented on Flashdance by the track "Imagination," in the film itself "Gloria" is more prominently featured - being the music to which the character played by Sunny Johnson performs her ice-skating routine" Both songs were used in full sequences: Gloria was used for the said ice skating scene, and Imagination was used for one of Alex's dances at the club (where she wore white makeup and progressively shed layers of clothes.) I think one hears the complete song in both instances, and there is little if any dialogue over the music in both instances. I don't really see what qualifies Gloria as having been more prominent. --174.56.0.212 (talk) 00:01, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
Similarity to Physical
editI'm omitted the unsourced likening of the Branigan track to Olivia Newton-John's Physical: the riff in the Branigan version of Gloria was featured in the 1979 Tozzi original so it doesn't evidence Physical's influence. It's possible the success of the similarly rhythmed Physical may have factored into the choice of Gloria for Branigan but with no source that is of course total speculation.--Cherrylimerickey (talk) 21:35, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
Plagiarism?
editI realized the chords are the same as from Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting by Elton John. MrLW97 (talk) 22:23, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
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