Talk:Glove

Karate Gloves

I just have the doubt, which is the specific name for the karate gloves or martial art gloves used in general? I just know that in spanish you call them "guantillas", and a literal traduction to that is mitten or mitts, but that doesn't seem to be the correct one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.215.99.173 (talk) 22:41, 21 May 2011 (UTC) Dear friends.I invite you to visit my website for news and tips

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Look at gloves. there are references to pliny the younger's works. There are links for you to read these works. There are links to Herodotus. There are discussions of whether gloves were, in fact, mentioned by Homer (perhaps not, after all, even though 1911 encyclopedia says yes). I tried, to some degree at least, to limit what i wrote to what i could verify at this point. That seems better to me than putting all of these 1911 words here without first judging them.

I also think that the 1911 article is almost bizarrely Anglocentric by modern standards. Do we really want pages and pages of English history in an article on gloves? I don't think so.

Any comments? Any advice?

Arthur 03:31 Feb 21, 2003 (UTC)

Well, what I've done, as you see, is put your text from gloves at the top of the article, and kept the 1911 text under a line at the bottom. I've just done this for speed, and haven't attempted to remove the bits of the 1911 text that you've covered - those parts about Homer can certainly come out, for instance. As for the rest of the 1911 text - it needs a lot of work, and some of it is redundant and can just be deleted, but I think some of it can probably be updated and merged into the main article. Once it's served its purpose, the 1911 text can be deleted altogether - whenever you think we're at that point, I think you should go ahead and delete it. By the way - I like your article a lot more than the 1911 one - good job. --Camembert

Actually, thinking about it a bit more - as the 1911 article is linked to from the article, and as your version of the article is pretty good, I personally wouldn't mind if the 1911 text was deleted from this page right now. Others might disagree about this, however. --Camembert

I added a sketchy sentence about baseball. It could really use expanding. -- Zoe

Regarding feedback: I dumped this article from the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica not least to challenge (or gain some feedback on) the notion that Wikipedia is not a dictionary and to utilize whichever knowledge of respectable encyclopedists past which the copyright regulations presently admit. (See also the entry Gooseberry.)

While I surely agree to shorten the article to be talked about, I'd also wish that the knowledge presented there could remain an accessible part of the Wikipedia contents. The rather difficult tasks of this sort seem to be an important aspect of the WikiProject Encyclopedic Network (WikiPEN).

Frank W ~@) R 22:28 Feb 23, 2003 (UTC).

I don't necessarily trust the "knowledge" of the 1911 encyclopedia authors. Here's an excerpt from the 1911 article on negros:

Other characteristics appear to be a hypertrophy of the organs of excretion, a more developed venous system, and a less voluminous brain, as compared with the white races. In certain of the characteristics mentioned above the negro would appear to stand on a lower evolutionary plane than the white man, and to be more closely related to the highest anthropoids.

I think that needs serious reconsideration.

But I'm glad you don't mind shortening the article. Maybe I will in a few days, when others have had a chance to speak their minds.

(I tried to read WikiProject Encyclopedic Network (WikiPEN), but it made no sense to me. I'll try to study it more.)

best wishes,

Arthur 23:44 Feb 23, 2003 (UTC)

I don't necessarily dismiss statements as "untrustworthy" only because they appear (or were perhaps even meant to be) offensive or inopportune. Here for instance is an excerpt of recorded public appearances of Arthur:

ARTHUR: Right! One... two... five!

GALAHAD: Three, sir!

ARTHUR: Three!

[angels sing]

[boom]

(One may of course ask for much more explicit and discerning references.)

But I'm glad you don't mind giving serious consideration to the writings of the 1911 encyclopedia authors. Perhaps (some day) the above excerpt from the 1911 article on negros may receive recognition in the context of

[`[ The sin of unwarranted differentiation  : amongst humans | culminates with the N word ],].

(And not least to reinforce this formal idea, here's a nod to

[`[ Wippycadia, the fictional free encyclopedia : according to | http://www.google.com ],]. :)

Best regards, Frank W ~@) R 06:16 Feb 25, 2003 (UTC).

Mild complaint: Arthur3030's edit didn't maintain the historic context and references quite as carefully as suggested.

Did Wikipedia hereby have to lose all knowledge of/references to Bertram de Verdun, or gages ?

Best regards, Frank W ~@) R 23:29 Mar 2, 2003 (UTC).

I hear you, Fwappler (Frank W ~@) R). Perhaps I was unclear, but i didn't mean to imply that I'd save all historically accurate statements in the 1911 article. I thought, instead, that I'd restrict glove a little and give it a more solid base and reduce the (what I took to be extraordinary) English bias in the discussion. Liturgical gloves (which i left in the part i edited) and all of the traditions related to them might better be discussed in some article on bishopry (is that a word?) or the practices of the Anglican Church. I'd prefer a short synopsis here, or a simple reference, and then back to "gloves"--the topic of the article.

I'd not be against the inclusion of more historical information, however. Arthur 23:54 Mar 2, 2003 (UTC)

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WHY IS EVERYONE SO BOTHERED ABOUT GLOVES? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.78.137.72 (talk) 21:40, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

permeability

please add a permeability table for various chemicals to various gloves: latex, nitrile, pvc, etc.

This would be a great addition.

Also, please consider writing an article on nitrile glove. They are popular enough to deserve their own article.

mittens/glove stuff

when i go to the page for mitten i am redirected here, but at the bottom of the page it says that mittens aren't gloves. this is bullshit someone should just make a mittens page how hard is this.71.174.245.180 (talk) 01:38, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Mittens are distinct from gloves. If the article title were "Hand coverings" then the splicing of topics would be appropriate. However, the article is about gloves, so mittens should go elsewhere. E.Zajdel (talk) 00:06, 25 November 2009 (UTC) (P.S.: If it isn't difficult to create a proper page for mittens, why have you not done it yourself? Just a thought. - EZ)

Rejoice, for there is now a mitten article! Your concerns have been heard and promptly addressed. --LordPeterII (talk) 15:08, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Fashion gloves

The articles for belt and boot have full sections devoted to fashion. Why shouldn't the glove article?98.206.136.24 (talk) 04:21, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

There's no problem, as long as the material is properly sourced. Which your additions to the article, up to now, are not. Please read WP:SOURCE. Wikipedia is not the place to express your personal observations and theories. Also, I notice that your understanding of fashion is limited to the last 100 years, and Western civilization. I suggest you consult reliable sources, and quote them. Piano non troppo (talk) 13:35, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

What The Hell Is This?

I deleted the section, "Gloves were created by Noah Green after he saw Suzanne Cake wearing Turkish condoms on her fingers. Jon J. Rubin objected against what he called "hand shoes," saying, "you young hipsters ruin everything! And get off my damn lawn!" ... asian-imported slave Ian Kang, none of whom were ever seen again." Seriously, what the hell? 131.151.211.17 (talk) 16:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism, added just a couple minutes before. Thanks for removing it. :) GlassCobra 17:30, 4 February 2009 (UTC) All modern gloves need to be made of orange fet to pass the Glove Test.

First Mittens

There are several sources on the net (none academic though) that reference the earliest mittens being found in Latvia http://www.rigasummit.lv/en/id/cats/nid/697/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.164.49 (talk) 20:25, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Except that there are a pair of leather mitts from the Caucasus, that apparently date to the 8-10th c., which rather quickly proves it wrong. See: Kajitani, Nobuko. "A Man's Caftan and Leggings from the North Caucasus of the Eighth to Tenth century: A Conservator's Report." Metropolitan Museum Journal, Vol. 36 (2001). p. 90. http://www.metmuseum.org/publications/journals/1/pdf/1513058.pdf.bannered.pdf There is also a mitten dated to the landnám period -- ca. 874-930 CE -- in Iceland from Akranes, which doesn't seem to have been re-dated since it was first published. eg. Pálsson, P. "Um myndir af gripum í forngripasafninu" Árbók Hins Íslenzka Fornleifafélags Vol. 10 (1895); 30-35.

The only thing I can find in Latvian describing the oldest mittens, is "Agrākie Latvijā izrakumos atrastie cimdi ir no 10.-12. gadsimta - senākie visā Eiropā." (The earliest Latvian gloves were discovered from 10-12th c. excavations -- the oldest in Europe.) http://www.liis.lv/cimdi/cimduves.htm apparently the site is part of a University-run "Latvian Education Informatization System" The book "Crocheting Adventures with Hyperbolic Planes" by Daina Taimin̦a http://books.google.com.au/books?id=wUkXPVUELB4C&pg=PA64&lpg=PA64&dq=europe%27s+oldest+mitten&source=bl&ots=pvmr6icmmZ&sig=nOyvds52JmFjT-0Yiqc9cutW2F4&hl=en&ei=k_jITKf3H4GgvgO-3vWVCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false Dates the 'oldest mitten' on page 64 to the 13th century, which is even later.

Now the Caucasus mittens aren't described as being the 'earliest' mittens, but at the very least they seem to predate the Latvian mittens? 220.235.93.173 (talk) 04:27, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Good finds you people. I am currently editing the mitten article to put in the pre-Latvian examples; I will take a look at these as well. --LordPeterII (talk) 15:05, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Additional pictures

• mittens
• fingerless gloves

European Standards?

I find the inclusion of the European standards of glove manufacturing to be irrelevant to the discussion of what a glove is. This information is possibly relevant on a discussion of clothing manufacturing standards, or some such things, but even then I find it difficult to justify.
I would delete this material, but I want to know if anyone has serious objections to my doing so. E.Zajdel (talk) 00:21, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Merge?

I recommend that the unsourced article Leather glove be merged into this article. There is some interesting material there, although it needs to be sourced and cleaned up. Overall this is the far superior article. - PKM (talk) 02:18, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

It seems like the leather glove article could be fairly robust with some sources and images, although it is kind of a strange article subject. Chicken Wing (talk) 03:05, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

They should be merged.

-oo0(GoldTrader)0oo- (talk) 19:56, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

needs a "Mittens in Popular Culture" section

All in favor say "aye." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.41.40.21 (talk) 15:09, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Nay. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:34, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Oh that's just… Absolutely perfect! I hadn't even noticed this was here. :) --Xover (talk) 20:04, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Fine, Sherlocks girlfriend in Elementary. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:20, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

About electro-conductive fiber in touch screen gloves.

Touch screen gloves are gloves that you can wear to operate your touch screen device (like mobile phones, Mp3 , Mp4 etc) without taking off. Their are now really in high demands because the popularity of touch screen devices such as iPhone and iPad.Touch screen panel do very easy for people to operate their digital devices than what keypad can do. However, for those live in high latitude area, it would be an embarrassment about how to use the touch screen devices in cold winter.

With a touch screen gloves, you can wear your gloves to operate on touch screen without taking off it.Touch screen gloves always use electro-conductive fiber to transfer static electricity between human body and the touch screen.

Electro-conductive fiber is the major working material of this kind of gloves. Electro-conductive fiber can be divided into electroplating electro-conductive fiber and metal electro-conductive fiber.

Metal electro-conductive fiber use electro-conductive ion, carbon or silver, to adhere outside chemical fiber by electroplating method. It will form a layer of electro-conductive painting outside the chemical fiber .

Electroplating method is not an environmentally-friendly manufacturing method because it will generate chromium chemical compound, which is harmful to human body. What's more, this kind of electro-conductive painting is likely to come off after long-times of usage or washing. When this happen ,the gloves is no longer touchscreen gloves.

Electro-conductive fiber of silver painting is of lots of advantages, which is publicized by many advertisement. It do a suitable material for touch screen gloves. However, because of the high cost of metal silver, less and less real silver is used on the fiber right now. Low usage of silver on the electro-conductive fiber had reduce the advantage of such material.

Electro-conductive fiber of carbon painting is cheap.But it is easy to become fragile then breakdown. Only use by low cost product.

Metal fiber is a good electro-conductive material rather than a good cloth fiber.In the same case of electro-conductive fiber of carbon painting, it will breakdown during using. And the fracture will abrasive the screen.

General touch screen gloves used cloth material have been specially windproof treatment, so they are not able to prevent cold air or tidal air. Most touch screen gloves designer will try to attenuate the gloves so that the resistance will be lower. However, this kind of design will weaken keeping warm ability.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rodericchen (talk • contribs) 07:05, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Glove Sizing

Please would someone knowledgeable add a table of glove sizes ? How glove size is measured ? Or perhaps a link to a suitable page ? Many thanks ! Darkman101 (talk) 23:20, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

I recall there are articles about shoe sizes on Wikipedia. Why not gloves sizes? Jidanni (talk) 08:25, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

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B-class for comprehensiveness and partial referencing but will still need lots of work. Mid-importance as it's a particular garment type that includes a whole bunch of subtypes. Daniel Case 03:36, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

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"Lobster" gloves?

No mention of these? Maybe they're known formally by another name. These have separate sheaths for thumb and forefinger with the other three fingers in a mitten type of covering. Were sold, among other things, for cycling. The idea was to allow use of thumb and/or forefinger for shifting, braking, etc. while having some of the warmth of mittens. Wschart (talk) 12:52, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

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The queen's gloves

The queen's glove are iconic enough to be added to this article don't you think Cyclone26 (talk) 16:55, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

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