Talk:Glynor Plet

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Glynor Plet/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: JC Kotisow (talk · contribs) 08:20, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	Pass. Generally clear and concise
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	Fails. Could be improved in terms of readability, structure, and contextual information. Check WP:STRUCTURE and MOS:BIOFIRSTSENTENCE for assistance or look at the Wikipedia help page for further assistance. Passes after looking at improvement and expanded sectons.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	Pass. No issue
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	good use of references and well detailed.
	2c. it contains no original research.	Pass.
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.	none detected
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	addresses career well but other topics are needed to be added or expanded.. Pass, no issue
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	Pass. Focuses on subject consistently
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.	Pass. no issue
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	no issue so far
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
	7. Overall assessment.	Pending Look at final review below

Initial Review

@User:Bocanegra Looking at this article already, this needs significant information and improvement about this person for it to be a GA class or even B-class. The lead section lacks information and needs to be expanded, meaning take into account what he achieved or ultimately went through (if significant); go into a bit more detail than just listing the clubs, the lead section is like a tiny summary of your whole article so list milestones and achievements. Your sentences and wording are pretty basic with some sentences needing to be shorter rather than longer to make a smoother reading experience but other than that, it passes. Your sections seem to be well-organised with simple headings, which is fine. Over than that, your article does not broadly cover the topic and only covers one aspect of the person which is his professional career, as a result, this article does not pass the GA criteria for now. I will put this on hold in hopes you can expand further and add more information on the subject at hand. JC Kotisow (talk) 08:44, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing, @JC Kotisow, very helpful. I'll see if I can expand and smoothen out some things. Bocanegra (talk) 09:46, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

No problem! I saw you have added new information and it's starting to look really good. If you come across new information, be sure to summarise. JC Kotisow (talk) 22:27, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Second Review

@User:Bocanegra After reading your article, it seems to be looking really good. I'll suggest changes you can write in order to make it easier and compelling:

You don't need this since he has no connection to Plet

• "Additionally, it was around that time that striker Jasmin Ramic [nl] had been recruited from Argon by Groningen."

Summarise this:

• "Despite having gained valuable experience during his first year at Den Bosch and believing in his abilities comparable to Van der Biezen, Plet decided, in consultation with his father and agent, to take a step back. This decision was also influenced by the fact that he was playing for Den Bosch on an amateur contract. Having turned eighteen, Plet desired financial independence and sought recognition for the two years he had dedicated to his development at Den Bosch."
• Example: Despite gaining first-team experience, Plet departed the club after consultation with his father and agent, due to the fact that he was on an amateur contract and in need for financial independence.

Change this:

• "In the 2007–08 season, Plet took another step back to play for amateur club Lisse in the Saturday Hoofdklasse A"
• Example: "In the 2007–08 season, Plet joined amateur club Lisse in the Saturday Hoofdklasse A"

Note: Since you already said he took a step back, no need to say "another step back"

Remove these two sentences:

• "This experience prompted Plet to reassess his goals, affirming, "Professional footballers have it really good. If I ever get the chance again, I'll seize it."
• "Plet believes his time at Lisse was a defining moment, remarking, "I now realise that professional footballers have it very easy and shouldn't complain as much. You train for two hours a day and then have the whole day free to rest or do whatever you want."

Change this:

• Plet, however, was reluctant to continue playing in the Eerste Divisie, feeling he had accomplished what he could in that competition.
• However, Plet...

and this:

• " He was, however, sent off in injury time"
• Example: However, he was...

Describe this since it was an achievement:

• "His goal in the match against Maccabi Tel Aviv (a 3–1 loss) was chosen as Goal of the Year by the Israeli television channel, Channel 1."
• For example, On [date], Plet scored the [opening/equalising/a consolation] goal in [what minute of the match], [describe the goal, only if described from match reports], in a 3–1 loss to Maccabi Tel Aviv. In [Month], his strike was chosen as Goal of the Year by the Israeli television channel, Channel 1.

Move this:

• "after his contract with Twente had been terminated on 31 August."
• And move it to the last paragraph of his Gent loan: ...Plet, despite his total tally of 13 goals, would return to Twente. His contract was terminated by Twente on 31 August.

Expand on Alanyaspor, just add a statistic; how many total league goals and appearances he made, including how many he started in those matches.

These are all my suggestions for now. I could ask you to try a "Style of play" section and an "Early life" section too. If you have trouble with Style of play or Early life thats ok, an example is below if you want to follow:

Early life and personal life

Plet was born on 30 January 1987 in Amsterdam, Netherlands to parents of Surinamese descent. His parents initially named him after, [Character], from the 1985 TV series MacGyver in which his parents were fans.

Style of play Example from link: [1]

Described as a powerful figure, Plet is mainly utilised as a striker. In attack, he uses his physicality and technique to hold the ball and create opportunities for overlapping teammates.

Anyway thats it for my second review if you have any questions or want to disucss feel free to ping me. JC Kotisow (talk) 23:16, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi!

Thanks for the input, much appreciated. Finally had time to sit down and look the article through and implement some of the changes you proposed. I tried working on the lead, but I find it difficult to make a concise description - mainly what to leave out and what is considered important.

I took your advice to heart and made a style of play section as well as an early and personal life chapter. I hope you find time to look it through. Thanks, again. Bocanegra (talk) 18:27, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

no problem! I really appreciate the work and I think it looka good. I will finish the review. JC Kotisow (talk) 22:22, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Final Review

@User:Bocanegra i am pleased to announce that your article passes GA-status and I will update the page soon after this message. Your article consistently stays on the subject, noting any achievement or milestone throughout his career, and is well organised in terms of context throughout the article. The images isn't a problem as stated in the criteria and I see your sections is improved and expanded. Congratulationss on your hard work. JC Kotisow (talk) 22:37, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

@JC Kotisow Happy to hear! Thanks for reviewing. Bocanegra (talk) 07:22, 14 July 2023 (UTC)