Talk:Go All the Way (song)

Requested move 30 September 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move per the discussion below. (page mover nac) Flooded with them hundreds 16:45, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

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Go All the Way (song) → Go All the Way – WP:PRIMARYTOPIC as evidenced by page view analysis (Raspberries song gets ~100 daily page views; other articles titled "Go All the Way" don't budge past 5 views a day) Ilovetopaint (talk) 09:29, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

• Daily page views:

• Raspberries song: 127
• Isley Brothers album: 27
• China album: 2
• disambig: 1

• Articles that link to the Raspberries song: (18) Raspberries (band), Eric Carmen, Power pop, Billboard Year-End Hot 100 singles of 1972, Jim Bonfanti, Let's Pretend (Raspberries song), I Wanna Be with You (Raspberries song), Deuce (song), Guardians of the Galaxy (soundtrack), Under the Covers, Vol. 2, Dark Shadows (film), List of songs recorded by the Killers, Ringo Starr & His All-Starr Band, List of Billboard Hot 100 top-ten singles in 1972, Almost Famous (soundtrack), List of people from Cleveland, 1972 in music, Raspberries' Best, Music of Ohio
• Articles that link to the Isley Brothers album: (7) The Isley Brothers, The Isley Brothers discography, Don't Say Goodnight (It's Time for Love), Grand Slam (The Isley Brothers album), List of Billboard number-one R&B albums of 1980, Chris Jasper, T-Neck Records

--Ilovetopaint (talk) 20:28, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 09:41, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

This would mean a move of Go All the Way → Go All the Way (disambiguation) as well. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 09:46, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Correct.--Ilovetopaint (talk) 12:42, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

• Comment - if you quote page view numbers, please share them. There really needs to be a policy set that nominators can't just throw around claims without any backup to them. To the point, your analysis is false. this clearly shows that Go All the Way (The Isley Brothers album) gets ~30 daily average and around 1/3-1/4 of what the song gets per month. The song still might be the primary, but no need to mess with the numbers. --Gonnym (talk) 15:59, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

well, I didn't say all of the other articles... --Ilovetopaint (talk) 23:06, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose. The song gets only 76% of the views. That's nowhere near enough to define a WP:PTOPIC: "A topic is primary for a term with respect to usage if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term." Narky Blert (talk) 16:53, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

It's not just about page views. The Raspberries song has more cultural significance (higher international chart positions and considered a definitive/influential work of the power pop genre). WP:PRIMARYTOPIC: "A topic is primary for a term with respect to long-term significance if it has substantially greater enduring notability and educational value than any other topic associated with that term." In any case, most people would concede that 76% is a "much more likely" probability than 24%.---Ilovetopaint (talk) 00:38, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

I repeat: much more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term. We are not here to push an agenda. We are here to help readers find what they're looking for. Narky Blert (talk) 05:09, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

...You mean "all the other topics" that get 1 view a day? Lol. Practically a stampede. --Ilovetopaint (talk) 20:12, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

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