Talk:Go equipment

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Retswerb in topic Yunzi shape?

Stub?

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I think this article has become bigger than a stub and have removed the tag. SandBoxer 11:12, 24 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

Goban redirect

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Could someone add a redirect for goban to this article? Khokkanen 12:55, 6 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Sure! In the future, you can do it yourself; read all about it! (P.S. 1984 was a great year.) --Mgreenbe 13:24, 6 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Stone size

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Anyone know the standards for size of the board, stones, bowls, table, etc? I don't mean 19x19, I mean the actually dimensions like 19 inches by 19 inches. 165.230.46.71 18:07, 2 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Go boards are usually one inch longer on each side, with the sides the players sit at being a fraction larger. Also, the sizes of stones range from 7 mm to 11 mm's. Here you can see a diagram of the different stone sizes (photo taken from the mail-order store Go-Figure!). Can 13:57, 3 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
So the board should be around 21 inches by 21 inches? 71.250.17.62 18:00, 17 June 2006 (UTC)Reply
Something around 20 inches on two sides, and 21 one the other. Can 19:40, 17 June 2006 (UTC)Reply
I found this site that lists "Chinese Standard size" and "Japanese standard size". Basically, if your board can fit your stones, you should be fine. I have a set of Yunzi stones and the board that fits them is slightly bigger than some of the other boards at my club. Here is the site: Go board size site --Sivak 02:19, 18 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Funny... it seems to be a consensus among Brazilian sources that a Goishi should have a diameter of about 21mm (pretty close to 53/64"). It is important that it be very close to the size of a Goban cell, which is itself understood to be 22 x 24 mm if at all possible (that translates into 111/128 x 121/128"). Also, Goishi seem to be nearly always between 6mm and 10mm high. I will try to bring some sources, but it can take a fair while to happen. Luis Dantas 09:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Stone Etiquette

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As far as the description for picking up a stone goes, as I understand it the proper method invloves first picking up a stone between the middle finger and thumb'...and then you slide the index finger under the stone as you place it on the board. this is what creates a real click sound instead of just a loose rattle or thump. I think the misperception that you just pick the stone up with the index and middle fingers derives from westerners primarily. I can try to source my claim if anyone is interested.

When I first played go, I would pick up more than one stone. I quickly learned the downside of this was that an extra stone in the hand could be dropped, damaging the position on the board.

From what I have heard, the index and middle finger habit is the Japanese etiquette, but the Chinese do not have this custom, especially because their stones are single convex and are not suitable for it. Origin415 22:06, 21 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

No, single convex stones can in fact be played in that way. and it is also the custom among Chinese players. VanTucky 23:33, 21 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Modern and Tournament Equipment

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What about adding information about clocks and Ing bowls?

Is that a type-o in the section on board care?

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The section on board care has this: "Wooden boards should be properly stored[vague] to prevent pieing, discoloration, woodworm, mold and other serious wear;". I'm wondering what board pieing is? Surely, we aren't concerned about someone throwing pies at the board? Perhaps the author meant "peeling"? For now I removed the word. 206.53.193.86 (talk) 01:21, 1 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

How many stones??

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How many stones are standard/the minimum?Kdammers (talk) 11:23, 7 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Traditional Go sets include 181 black stones and 180 white, since Black goes first and there are 361 points on the board; however, the number of stones is conceptually infinite, in the sense that, in beginners' games where many stones are captured back and forth, if one player sees that he has, or soon will have, too few stones, an exchange of prisoners can take place to replenish both players' stores of playable stones. If you make your own set with, let's say, a square of cardboard with 19 horizontal and 19 vertical lines, plus one box of white beans and one of coffee beans, don't worry about having too many stones — that's no problem. — Tonymec (talk) 05:42, 15 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Japanese language preference?

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Is there a reason this article tends to give Japanese names for equipment but not Chinese or Korean? noktulo (talk) 16:53, 11 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

The game of Go has been imported into the English (and French) -speaking world from Japan. Some aficionados know that the game is called weiqi in Chinese (written with the same sinographs as the Japanese Igo) and baduk in Korean, but their knowledge about "the encircling game in Chinese and Korean" rarely goes any farther than that; while all aspects of the game, not only the material but also all aspects of tactics and strategy, are discussed in Europe and the Americas under their Japanese names. — Tonymec (talk) 05:31, 15 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Yunzi shape?

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Yunzi are introduced here as a shape category (flat on one side, as opposed to 'Japanese and Korean style' biconvex), but the paragraph continues by stating that "Yunzi is also available in double convex shape." Can someone with familiarity clarify? Retswerb (talk) 04:48, 14 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

The term Yunzi for stones is unfortunately ambiguous. Yunzi refers to the material to make the stones. It also refers to a particular shape of stone where one side is flat (of any material). This is described more clearly in the article on Yunzi stones. Double convex shape is the same as "biconvex", meaning not flat on one side. It just means you can get stones made of Yunzi material that are not flat on one side. I have Yunzi stones that are "biconvex". They look like regular Japanese-style stones except they are slightly translucent and have a somewhat greenish tinge. I quite like them. If someone says they have Yunzi stones, they either have stones that are flat on one side (of any material), or they may have stones made of Yunzi material that are not (necessarily) flat on one side (although, of course, they could be made of Yunzi material and also flat on one side). Coastside (talk) 07:51, 14 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
That's kind of what I figured, thanks for the explanation! Are you comfortable updating the introduction to the yunzi stone section here for a bit more clarity? I'm going to tag it as clarification needed. Retswerb (talk) 08:15, 14 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
Sure. the information is clear in the Yunzi article. Coastside (talk) 13:15, 14 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, nice job with the wording. Retswerb (talk) 22:56, 14 October 2021 (UTC)Reply